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Post by Perfect Pseudonym on Sept 19, 2022 20:29:05 GMT
What I find even weirder was the dirgey lyrics about suicide were written by director Robert Altman's 15 year old son. Have to agree with Carty's selections. My favourites too. Yays, I remember how to use the quote function! Thanks Nightfly. I didn't realise that about the lyrics being by a 15 year old. He must have been a very deep thinker. Wouldn't have lasted too long at my school!
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Post by Perfect Pseudonym on Sept 19, 2022 20:30:32 GMT
I think Lulu’s the missing one. You think right A-ha thought so. Having digested many TOTPs lately, I've sort of got to recognise and be able to identify the L&Co members!
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Post by Del Boy on Sept 20, 2022 9:30:26 GMT
Good review PP. I don't recall this ep but your review leaves no stone unturned. Love the Dave Lettuce & Tomato link reviews. The utter DJ-esquee attempts at humour are seen in the minds eye reading the review and I really dont want to see this on the small screen A definite tail off from the heights of 1978- 1979, 1980s output was far better than a lot of what was to come. Still it has to be said 1980 had a lot of good records but not many of them on display here.
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Post by Perfect Pseudonym on Sept 20, 2022 15:54:11 GMT
Thanks Del As I seemed to note before I didn't actually write the review back then, the next episode was going to involve L&Co dancing to Mash, so this particular DLT one would have been missed out on the BBC4 schedules. For obvious reasons! On that subject, I just want to note that in due course there will no doubt be a TOTP hosted by Sir Not To Be Mentioned OBE. When that happens, I will just completely ignore his presence and just talk about the performances. When it comes to him duo-ing with someone else, then I'll scrub round it somehow! Anyway, the next TOTP episode to come will involve L&Co dancing to Mash!
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Post by Cartman on Sept 20, 2022 16:43:04 GMT
Good review PP. I don't recall this ep but your review leaves no stone unturned. Love the Dave Lettuce & Tomato link reviews. The utter DJ-esquee attempts at humour are seen in the minds eye reading the review and I really dont want to see this on the small screen A definite tail off from the heights of 1978- 1979, 1980s output was far better than a lot of what was to come. Still it has to be said 1980 had a lot of good records but not many of them on display here. Agree Del. To me, 1980 was the last really good year for a long time, 81/2/3 were ok in parts, but music fell off a cliff after then
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Post by Perfect Pseudonym on Sept 20, 2022 17:33:54 GMT
1980 was a bit of transition year.
As written down, it looks all modern and shiny compared to 1979, but it was essentially a somewhat luker warmer overspill of what was good in that year, and just a holding station for what be actually be new the following year. The seeds of which were beginning to be sown in the last couple of months.
But at the moment, 1980 is very much being that holding station and its own version of shiny and modern, New Musik and The Buggles, would just exist as a mere token of futurism keeping the seat warm until the actual futurism would come marching in. Although both bands did provide us with men who would make their mark in producing some of the new sound in the next few years.
For me, The Jam and Two-Tone apart, it's always seemed a bit of a flat year.
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Post by Cartman on Sept 20, 2022 19:43:18 GMT
I actually like 1980 musically, it was a kind of transition, as PP says, some of the brilliance of the late 70s carried over, and the big sounds were ska and two tone. Disco started to wane a little, and the last gasp of that creative period, the New Romantic s started up.
In the late 70s, just into the start of the 80s, you had two unrelated, but equally great music strands, disco and punk/new wave/ska/two tone and finally New Romantic. When these ran out of steam by about 1982/3 ish nothing anywhere near as good came along and it was the start of a long gap filled largely with dross like power ballads, cover versions, and worst of all, SAW cack.
This endured until a revival In the mid/late 90s with Britpop, which made chart music listenable to again for a few years, then Cowells karaoke crap sent it backwards again. Finally, I think there was another revival in the late 00s/early 10s, led largely by female artists, which has once again died out.
Here endeth tonight's music analysis😀
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Post by Nightfly on Sept 20, 2022 23:47:45 GMT
But at the moment, 1980 is very much being that holding station and its own version of shiny and modern, New Musik and The Buggles, would just exist as a mere token of futurism keeping the seat warm until the actual futurism would come marching in. I always thought New Musik were underrated. They didn't perhaps have the charisma/pretty boy image of the synth bands that would follow, looking more like IBM hardware engineers on a night off, but they had a unique sound. Back then, my parents had tolerated the glam bands blasting from my bedroom, but I got serious grief for overplaying World of Water. As for the band, whilst Clive Gates has appeared recently online to happily share his memories, leader Tony Mansfield seems to keep up the great British eccentric recluse persona. The Buggles - I think it was just Trevor Horn raising a bit of cash to buy some decent drum machines and sequencers for his producer of other artists gig.
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Post by Perfect Pseudonym on Sept 21, 2022 8:32:07 GMT
I don't mean it to sound as if I'm dismissing New Musik or Buggles, as I think both did tracks of merit (the ones that I know of theirs anyway!), it's just that they seem to be in a somewhat unique position of being the way forward out of 1979, but would never quite fit into the 1981 aesthetic either.
Although, as you say, Trevor Horn in particular needn't have been bothered by that. He had far more lucrative fish to fry in due course.
And New Musik's "Sanctuary" is one of the great lost records of all time.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 21, 2022 9:41:01 GMT
Great write up PP
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