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Post by Arthur Pringle on Jan 31, 2022 20:07:24 GMT
Once again it's very apparent how much older people looked then, band members in their mid 30's but looking prematurely old. I thought the audience were very respectful considering, I'm sure having a tv crew there made a difference but I imagine today in a club like that you'd be lucky to get anyone paying that much attention to a band. The singer's complaints about the audience not appreciating how much rehearsing the band does & the cost of equipment, plus his comments about giving up a well paid job to concentrate on music were quite delusional. I expect every band thinks they're going to 'make it' & end up resenting those around them who they must think don't recognise talent. Truth is they just weren't a very good band on the strength of this film, they ought to have recognised their limitations & kept it as a hobby.
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Post by Nightfly on Feb 1, 2022 10:57:27 GMT
Truth is they just weren't a very good band on the strength of this film, they ought to have recognised their limitations & kept it as a hobby. I didn't think they were too bad, but they seemed to be doing what many others were also doing ie: sounding like Smokie when Smokie were already well established. They reminded me of a bit of Candlewick Green who I think were also an Opp Knocks discovery some 2-3 years before. I just had to see if I could find out what happened to them. The drummer and lead singer are no longer alive, but the other two are retired but still dabbling in home recording etc.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Feb 1, 2022 18:52:21 GMT
I wonder if they keep a drawer full of Punch tapes & hand them out to visitors?
Their name wasn't great as it makes you think of the comic magazine as the compere noted when he introduced them.
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Post by Nightfly on Feb 2, 2022 0:42:27 GMT
I wonder if they keep a drawer full of Punch tapes & hand them out to visitors?
Their name wasn't great as it makes you think of the comic magazine as the compere noted when he introduced them.
Reminds me of the book Lost In Music by Giles Smith, which tells of his brief stardom with 80s band The Cleaners From Venus. An earlier name for the band was Pony, until the Cockney bloke he was in hospital with rose from his chair in the TV room and said "Just time for a quick pony before T he Professionals starts".
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Post by Sparky on Feb 2, 2022 12:17:09 GMT
Interesting to read in the comments that the scene with the two Spanish Romeos making their moves on two girls who had supposedly just got off the plane was set up. Apparently they were two British girls who were working in a Benidorm bar who were approached and paid by the crew to create the scene. The BBC upto the old "dishonest" journalism even then. Nothing changes. Must have run out of 1/2 decent material if they had to result of paying people to "perform" in a documentary!
Sometime in the late 80s, it was covered in some national press - that it was thought *some* documentary makers had been caught faking facts, information and paying performers to create scenes just to make good TV. TV Regulators all had kittens over such allegations.
I seem to remember BBCs 40 Minutes, Panorama & QED and even Cook Report on ITV were dragged in to the argument over athenticity. It transpired 40 Minutes was guilty but for nothing major, Panorama (then) wasn't proven guilty and Cook Report had done nothing wrong.
The latter, I can comment on, as I knew 2 or 3 people who worked on that series for many years, they were part of the same film department I worked in at the time. They were genuinely hit with golf clubs, had gear smashed up, death threats, shot at, dogs set on them - they didn't need to pay anyone to perform! It's debateable if Roger Cook often provoked the criminals - but nothing was "paid for" so to speak.
But these days - it's more common for Doc makers to use 'artistic licence' - and on a more regular basis too.
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Post by Nightfly on Feb 2, 2022 12:50:54 GMT
The BBC upto the old "dishonest" journalism even then. Nothing changes. Must have run out of 1/2 decent material if they had to result of paying people to "perform" in a documentary! In the early 90s, a BBC local radio journalist who worked from a studio next to my workplace, once asked if I would be prepared to be a fake shopkeeper refusing to accept Euros for a feature they were doing on currency. He couldn't persuade any real shopkeepers to play along.
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Post by Sparky on Feb 2, 2022 13:16:09 GMT
The BBC upto the old "dishonest" journalism even then. Nothing changes. Must have run out of 1/2 decent material if they had to result of paying people to "perform" in a documentary! In the early 90s, a BBC local radio journalist who worked from a studio next to my workplace, once asked if I would be prepared to be a fake shopkeeper refusing to accept Euros for a feature they were doing on currency. He couldn't persuade any real shopkeepers to play along. That doesn't surprise me. This has been going on much more in recent times- considering the BBC has an agenda to keep pushing.
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Post by Sam Tyler on Feb 2, 2022 15:49:34 GMT
In the early 90s, a BBC local radio journalist who worked from a studio next to my workplace, once asked if I would be prepared to be a fake shopkeeper refusing to accept Euros for a feature they were doing on currency. He couldn't persuade any real shopkeepers to play along. That doesn't surprise me. This has been going on much more in recent times- considering the BBC has an agenda to keep pushing.
This all sounds like a script from "Drop The Dead Donkey" when Damian Day (Stephen Tompkinson) presents his reports, one example: Sam.
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Post by Sparky on Feb 2, 2022 16:13:56 GMT
That doesn't surprise me. This has been going on much more in recent times- considering the BBC has an agenda to keep pushing.
This all sounds like a script from "Drop The Dead Donkey" when Damian Day (Stephen Tompkinson) presents his reports, one example: Sam. Wow! Not seen Drop the Dead Donkey for years. Going to watch a few episodes later I think! Think it was on TV around the same time as Alan Partridge - when he was a sports reporter.
Thanks Sam!
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Feb 2, 2022 19:18:41 GMT
One of my brothers worked for a local news agency, he was always being asked to make stuff up, fabricate quotes for stories, etc. He once pretended to be homeless & sat outside the Labour Party Conference in Blackpool, the idea was to guage the reactions of the politicians who came & went from the venue so they could write a piece on how 'compassionate' or not they were. The man he worked for in the news agency was always after 'dirt' on people, in fact my brother became very cynical quite quickly.
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