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Post by Tyne Tees Colour on Sept 30, 2015 6:31:29 GMT
I read his diaries but don't remember seeing that - interesting.
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Post by Tyne Tees Colour on Sept 30, 2015 6:43:55 GMT
Big Brother, I'm A (Z-List) Celebrity, etc are one thing but why is it that so many programs have to have a competition element? I can just bear sitting through a home repair type program and makeover at a push but why did that series with Sarah Beeny have to pit three homeowners in direct competition. And why do so many programs have to have an 'elimination' round with that pathetically predictable 'pause' before someone is told to do one?
Then we get to similar competition programs like Three or Four in a Bed where the narrator thinks he's auditioning for Cillit Bang and has to shout through every program.
I agree with the points made here. The programmes do not have enough 'space' for the viewer to interpret things for his/herself. There seems to be too many things going on - quick editing & effects, film speeded up or slowed down, show-off people waving their hands in the air, overblown but bland orchestral music that has neither 'groove' nor melody. Regarding the competition element, this reflects how current life/workplace etc is all around 'meeting targets', rather than just doing a job properly. And the 'shouting' is another aspect of not giving the viewer any space for interpretation.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Sept 30, 2015 13:54:11 GMT
I read his diaries but don't remember seeing that - interesting. I looked it up & he actually says 'most unfavourite comedians' after describing how he went to the cinema to see 'That Riviera Touch' in 1966, despite quite liking the film. Later in 1981 he describes being interviewed by them for a radio programme & is complimentary about them as people, but it's clear he didn't rate them much as an act.
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Post by Del Boy on Oct 1, 2015 0:00:52 GMT
I see Morecambe & Wise more as entertainers than outright comedians. Just one of many good Sketch shows around in the 60's and 70's. Its that old fashioned variety type act that TV seemed to move away from in the 80's.
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Post by Cartman on Oct 7, 2015 20:04:53 GMT
Just thought of something else I can't be doing with. The Apprentice. Attracts vapid suits spouting corporate bs and Sugar gets on my nerves.
Might make it more interesting if it had a slightly more varied line up of contestants, perhaps a couple of class war anarchists who are totally opposed to the whole concept of business, a couple more idle sods who just want to sit around eating kebabs all day and watching trash TV, perhaps a Cosmo Smallpiece/Benny Hill type, coming on for a perv....
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Post by Dirty Epic on Oct 8, 2015 8:57:09 GMT
Ah forgot about The Apprentice and well put Cartman. Can't stand it and IMHO it epitomises all which is bad with the 'greed is good' mantra of British business (i.e. exploitation). Also imagine putting half of these 'yah's' on manual/physical/anti-social hours jobs... they wouldn't last 3 seconds mate. Hate (sic) Lord Sugar and even more so his 'lackey's' Margaret Mountfield and Nick Hewer especially after that recent BBC show where they made claims retired people should continue working/were workshy in so many words - Cheek! Also hasn't Countdown gone crap since he began hosting it...
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Post by Del Boy on Oct 8, 2015 12:19:30 GMT
I tried this show but didn't like it. The infighting amongst the apprentices is tedious, but the competition to kiss Sugar's arse is sickening to watch.
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Post by Cartman on Oct 8, 2015 12:45:46 GMT
Would love to see a group approach Sugar with the suggestion, "we don't want to compete with anyone, we want to operate it as a socialist collective or anarcho syndicalist commune where we take turns on a weekly basis to weild executive authority based on a mandate from the masses" just to see his reaction would be
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Oct 8, 2015 14:32:01 GMT
Amstrad was always a byword for tat when I was growing up, like Alba. Sugar's act reminds me of Terry's boss Sir Dennis in 'Terry And June'. Like 'Dragon's Den' the hard faced businessman routine seems like pantomime to me, have people ever really done business like that outside of tv shows?
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Post by Sam Tyler on Oct 8, 2015 17:40:08 GMT
Would love to see a group approach Sugar with the suggestion, "we don't want to compete with anyone, we want to operate it as a socialist collective or anarcho syndicalist commune where we take turns on a weekly basis to weild executive authority based on a mandate from the masses" just to see his reaction would be And the second group looks at Sugar and asks "Who's he? ... Dunno, must be a king. ... Why? ... He hasn't got shit all over him!"
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