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Post by Three Litre on Nov 18, 2020 20:25:23 GMT
Oh arse!
I'll have to change my avatar! Won't be allowed a petrol guzzling Essex V6.
Whats the equivalent in electric motors?
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Post by Gene Hunt on Nov 18, 2020 20:31:39 GMT
Oh arse! I'll have to change my avatar! Won't be allowed a petrol guzzling Essex V6. Whats the equivalent in electric motors? There's no match 3L - you leave it as it is pal Gene.
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Post by Sam Tyler on Nov 18, 2020 20:59:40 GMT
Oh arse! I'll have to change my avatar! Won't be allowed a petrol guzzling Essex V6. Whats the equivalent in electric motors? Here you are Essex, going back to GC's comment on Scalextric: Sam
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Post by Three Litre on Nov 18, 2020 21:06:56 GMT
Scalectrix - Are they going to cut two big ruts down the road and fit all cars with carbon pick-ups?
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Post by Sam Tyler on Nov 18, 2020 21:32:23 GMT
Scalectrix - Are they going to cut two big ruts down the road and fit all cars with carbon pick-ups? Funnier things have happened: Sam.
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Post by Sparky on Nov 19, 2020 7:19:19 GMT
I went to a lecture a couple of years by given by some technical bod I can't remember who, think it was from power distribution industry. He made a point that all the load on the small transformers you see in some streets (I say small, about the size of a shed) at night could be a problem as that's when they cool down and if they don't it takes life out of them. Everything has a cost. I saw something similar to this.
As Cartman says, a battery takes a while to charge - by "force charging" or "boost charging" a battery, you can ruin it's working life. So to keep it's battery life - from flat, it could take a matter of hours to charge.
The chargers themselves, if they house large transformers - image that lot on an entire street - all charging their cars overnight. If the chargers are transformerless 'switched mode' one - they are reported to be a bit more efficient - though you end up with the Power Factor issue. At the end of it all, the customer will end up paying for whatever.
I am unsure what technology they are using inside the electric cars - need to read up more! I suppose with everything, there are Pro's and Cons.
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Post by Sparky on Nov 19, 2020 10:55:27 GMT
I went to a lecture a couple of years by given by some technical bod I can't remember who, think it was from power distribution industry. He made a point that all the load on the small transformers you see in some streets (I say small, about the size of a shed) at night could be a problem as that's when they cool down and if they don't it takes life out of them. Everything has a cost. I saw something similar to this.
As Cartman says, a battery takes a while to charge - by "force charging" or "boost charging" a battery, you can ruin it's working life. So to keep it's battery life - from flat, it could take a matter of hours to charge.
The chargers themselves, if they house large transformers - image that lot on an entire street - all charging their cars overnight. If the chargers are transformerless 'switched mode' one - they are reported to be a bit more efficient - though you end up with the Power Factor issue. At the end of it all, the customer will end up paying for whatever.
I am unsure what technology they are using inside the electric cars - need to read up more! I suppose with everything, there are Pro's and Cons.
Another point on the Green Issue and banning on cars...
Boris has announced plans to invest in a "British Space Program" - Space Command (aparently) - it sounds like an old Atari 2600 game. So - in light of this super friendly carbon neutral plan for the UK - we plan to send Rockets up into space.
Not a Rocket Scientist - but to get the thing to lift off the ground, and overcome Gravity - you need a hell of a lot of force/thrust (fnar fnar). The only way we can achieve this is by using/burning masses of Rocket Fuel.
Unless - someone has developed an Anti-Matter Reactor that is able to generate waves strong enough to enable a mass to move itself and overcome Earths Gravity.... Star Trek did it - so maybe that's BJs thinking.
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Post by Del Boy on Nov 19, 2020 14:13:40 GMT
Living in the greater London area we have had to listen to all this BS for a while. My beef with it is they say we must clean up the air , your car pollutes etc but on the other hand the continual rise in population is ok by them. Obviously the two attitudes contradict each other. Green tax is what it's really about as of course more people means more pollution across the board.
Today it is announced that motorway speed limits are falling to 60 permanently and will be rolled out in England at several sites. Why ? you guessed it apparently its less polluting.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Nov 19, 2020 15:34:37 GMT
I have a slightly different perspective to most of the people who have commented so far
I feel cars and cities are a bad combination
The noise is horrendous, the polluted air is linked to all kinds of negative health outcomes, and so the overall quality of life for city dwellers suffers. Air pollution has been linked to cancer, asthma, stroke and heart disease, diabetes, obesity and dementia either as a cause or as a complicating factor contributing towards premature death
I love getting up early on a Sunday when there is hardly any traffic and enjoying the tranquility and peace. Going for a walk, a run, or a cycle early on a Sunday is an absolute joy. As the traffic builds it becomes progressively more unpleasant
I would love to see fewer cars in cities and more zones where people can wander on entire roads and not just hemmed into small pavements whilst motor vehicles either thunder by, or more usually, sit in gridlock polluting the air for everyone
That's just on a individual basis
More broadly, the climate emergency is urgent and the levels of C02 emissions are the reason. Doing nothing is not an option. Clean transport will play a key part in hopefully ensuring our children, grandchildren etc etc can enjoy the planet as we have
These changes are going to inconvenience everyone as we've become used to just hopping in a car to go to the shops, or visit people, but I cannot see obvious alternatives to making dramatic changes to the way we have become used to living.
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Post by Sparky on Nov 19, 2020 15:49:06 GMT
I have a slightly different perspective to most of the people who have commented so far
I feel cars and cities are a bad combination
The noise is horrendous, the polluted air is linked to all kinds of negative health outcomes, and so the overall quality of life for city dwellers suffers. Air pollution has been linked to cancer, asthma, stroke and heart disease, diabetes, obesity and dementia either as a cause or as a complicating factor contributing towards premature death
I love getting up early on a Sunday when there is hardly any traffic and enjoying the tranquility and peace. Going for a walk, a run, or a cycle early on a Sunday is an absolute joy. As the traffic builds it becomes progressively more unpleasant
I would love to see fewer cars in cities and more zones where people can wander on entire roads and not just hemmed into small pavements whilst motor vehicles either thunder by, or more usually, sit in gridlock polluting the air for everyone
That's just on a individual basis
More broadly, the climate emergency is urgent and the levels of C02 emissions are the reason. Doing nothing is not an option. Clean transport will play a key part in hopefully ensuring our children, grandchildren etc etc can enjoy the planet as we have
These changes are going to inconvenience everyone as we've become used to just hopping in a car to go to the shops, or visit people, but I cannot see obvious alternatives to making dramatic changes to the way we have become used to living.
I agree.
But this also applies to others too - not just us who have to fork out and comply chapter and verse to yet more legislation. We as members of the public try (or are forced) to make changes - it appears the Green thing doesn't apply to certain companies, or even countries.
Are they going to shut down the multitudes of Coal Fired power stations in China? Believe that when I see it. Or even reducing packaging from Fast Food places / Online shops?
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