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Post by Arthur Pringle on Dec 18, 2019 0:07:13 GMT
Yes I remember that Sparky, Christopher Jefferies was his name, basically all they had on him was a dodgy comb over. They even did a tv mini series drama about him 'The Lost Honour Of Christopher Jefferies'. That's another thing I don't like, dramatisations of the lives of people like Harold Shipman.
I have read books on Brady & Hindley, Dennis Nilsen, Fred & Rose West etc. but I often wonder how healthy it is to be interested in what these people did & whether books & films should be made about them at all.
There have been cases of men killing themselves after being outed by paedophile hunters. The problem being that these men often leave widows & fatherless children as a result, the families unaware of their interest in underage children, so even if you applaud the death of a potential child abuser you are still left with a wife & children without a husband/father, the loss of an income & the shame of being known as the wife/child of a 'peedo'. The paedophile hunters often fail to take these things into account in their fervour. If we really want to be controversial, the age of consent is considerably lower in other European countries, making you a 'peedo' in one country & someone engaged in consensual sex in another.
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Post by Sparky on Dec 18, 2019 7:15:25 GMT
Yes I remember that Sparky, Christopher Jefferies was his name, basically all they had on him was a dodgy comb over. They even did a tv mini series drama about him 'The Lost Honour Of Christopher Jefferies'. That's another thing I don't like, dramatisations of the lives of people like Harold Shipman.
I have read books on Brady & Hindley, Dennis Nilsen, Fred & Rose West etc. but I often wonder how healthy it is to be interested in what these people did & whether books & films should be made about them at all.
There have been cases of men killing themselves after being outed by paedophile hunters. The problem being that these men often leave widows & fatherless children as a result, the families unaware of their interest in underage children, so even if you applaud the death of a potential child abuser you are still left with a wife & children without a husband/father, the loss of an income & the shame of being known as the wife/child of a 'peedo'. The paedophile hunters often fail to take these things into account in their fervour. If we really want to be controversial, the age of consent is considerably lower in other European countries, making you a 'peedo' in one country & someone engaged in consensual sex in another.
Christopher Jefferies. That's the one. Never been good with names!
I haven't read books on Brady/Hindly. Nilsen or Fred & Rose West - though couldn't comment on such books. I have read a lot of books on the Krays, Richardsons and the like. That side of crime has always been of interest - in particular the structures and kind of 'moral codes' they had.
Indeed, for every Crime, there are the Victims, but also the Family of the Defendant are also Victims too.
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Post by DI Alex Drake on Dec 24, 2019 0:05:25 GMT
The apparent need to buy 3 weeks’ worth of food because the supermarket is shut for a whole 24 hours. The greed of retail meaning that everyone has to work Boxing Day (and that millions of morons can think of nothing better to do the day after they have received presents than go shopping) and that everyone seems to leave it so last minute that they’re running around and screaming at retail staff who, quite frankly, would really rather be home with their families. Thankfully I do not work in retail any more but did for 6 Christmasses and my husband still does and he is having to work Boxing Day, much to our delight. He has been run absolutely ragged over the last 10 weeks on the run up to this and then can’t even have two days off in a row when it finally arrives. Because I know what it’s like from the other side, as it were, I am so careful at this time of year to be nice to staff in shops and also not to leave anything too late. One of my “favourite” memories from a few Christmas Eves ago was a man yelling at me because we only had one colour of wrapping paper left a few hours before closing for Christmas. Yes ... because the business would do very well if we still had the full range for sale by this point, wouldn’t it .
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Post by Sparky on Dec 24, 2019 8:49:02 GMT
The apparent need to buy 3 weeks’ worth of food because the supermarket is shut for a whole 24 hours. The greed of retail meaning that everyone has to work Boxing Day (and that millions of morons can think of nothing better to do the day after they have received presents than go shopping) and that everyone seems to leave it so last minute that they’re running around and screaming at retail staff who, quite frankly, would really rather be home with their families. Thankfully I do not work in retail any more but did for 6 Christmasses and my husband still does and he is having to work Boxing Day, much to our delight. He has been run absolutely ragged over the last 10 weeks on the run up to this and then can’t even have two days off in a row when it finally arrives. Because I know what it’s like from the other side, as it were, I am so careful at this time of year to be nice to staff in shops and also not to leave anything too late. One of my “favourite” memories from a few Christmas Eves ago was a man yelling at me because we only had one colour of wrapping paper left a few hours before closing for Christmas. Yes ... because the business would do very well if we still had the full range for sale by this point, wouldn’t it . Funnily enough - I had this same rant yesterday morning to my other 1/2 - I only nipped out for some milk and a loaf of bread - and there were people with mountains built inside their trolleys - it looked liked they were hoarding food just in case of armegeddon. The supermarket is only closed for 24 ruddy hours.
Agree again - at one time shops were closed for the "Christmas Period", and many on Sundays -thanks to Commercial Greed - they are forced to open their doors at 6am, while idiots with sod all better to do, sleep outside just to get in "first".
Then you consider the Billions these retail outlets make (and Tax loop holes) and the difference in what they pay their staff....
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Post by Three Litre on Dec 24, 2019 8:50:40 GMT
The apparent need to buy 3 weeks’ worth of food because the supermarket is shut for a whole 24 hours. The greed of retail meaning that everyone has to work Boxing Day (and that millions of morons can think of nothing better to do the day after they have received presents than go shopping) and that everyone seems to leave it so last minute that they’re running around and screaming at retail staff who, quite frankly, would really rather be home with their families. Thankfully I do not work in retail any more but did for 6 Christmasses and my husband still does and he is having to work Boxing Day, much to our delight. He has been run absolutely ragged over the last 10 weeks on the run up to this and then can’t even have two days off in a row when it finally arrives. Because I know what it’s like from the other side, as it were, I am so careful at this time of year to be nice to staff in shops and also not to leave anything too late. One of my “favourite” memories from a few Christmas Eves ago was a man yelling at me because we only had one colour of wrapping paper left a few hours before closing for Christmas. Yes ... because the business would do very well if we still had the full range for sale by this point, wouldn’t it . Spot on there DI! When I was a kid the shops did properly shut around Christmas, also they weren't open on Sundays or till 8pm in the week. So if you had forgotten the sage and onion stuffing you were stuffed, or not as the case may be. These days they are hardly ever shut and as you say people stock up like it was 1965! Mad.
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Post by Batgirl on Dec 24, 2019 12:44:39 GMT
The apparent need to buy 3 weeks’ worth of food because the supermarket is shut for a whole 24 hours. The greed of retail meaning that everyone has to work Boxing Day (and that millions of morons can think of nothing better to do the day after they have received presents than go shopping) and that everyone seems to leave it so last minute that they’re running around and screaming at retail staff who, quite frankly, would really rather be home with their families. Thankfully I do not work in retail any more but did for 6 Christmasses and my husband still does and he is having to work Boxing Day, much to our delight. He has been run absolutely ragged over the last 10 weeks on the run up to this and then can’t even have two days off in a row when it finally arrives. Because I know what it’s like from the other side, as it were, I am so careful at this time of year to be nice to staff in shops and also not to leave anything too late. One of my “favourite” memories from a few Christmas Eves ago was a man yelling at me because we only had one colour of wrapping paper left a few hours before closing for Christmas. Yes ... because the business would do very well if we still had the full range for sale by this point, wouldn’t it . Yes absolutely agree too. I will be working Boxing Day in retail. I only work as a casual for this store on weekends. After shopping for Christmas I couldn't think of anything worse than shopping on Boxing Day. This year I see an email has been sent out advertising the Boxing Day discounts online with customers able to start buying/ordering the Boxing Day specials now, before Christmas has even happened! If you've survived working a Boxing Day sale you can survive anything ! Merry Christmas.
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Post by DI Alex Drake on Dec 26, 2019 18:09:29 GMT
The apparent need to buy 3 weeks’ worth of food because the supermarket is shut for a whole 24 hours. The greed of retail meaning that everyone has to work Boxing Day (and that millions of morons can think of nothing better to do the day after they have received presents than go shopping) and that everyone seems to leave it so last minute that they’re running around and screaming at retail staff who, quite frankly, would really rather be home with their families. Thankfully I do not work in retail any more but did for 6 Christmasses and my husband still does and he is having to work Boxing Day, much to our delight. He has been run absolutely ragged over the last 10 weeks on the run up to this and then can’t even have two days off in a row when it finally arrives. Because I know what it’s like from the other side, as it were, I am so careful at this time of year to be nice to staff in shops and also not to leave anything too late. One of my “favourite” memories from a few Christmas Eves ago was a man yelling at me because we only had one colour of wrapping paper left a few hours before closing for Christmas. Yes ... because the business would do very well if we still had the full range for sale by this point, wouldn’t it . Yes absolutely agree too. I will be working Boxing Day in retail. I only work as a casual for this store on weekends. After shopping for Christmas I couldn't think of anything worse than shopping on Boxing Day. This year I see an email has been sent out advertising the Boxing Day discounts online with customers able to start buying/ordering the Boxing Day specials now, before Christmas has even happened! If you've survived working a Boxing Day sale you can survive anything ! Merry Christmas. You poor thing, I hope you survived. I never had to do Boxing Day thankfully with the wonderful excuse that there were no trains. But I did do all 6 Christmas Eves whilst I was in retail. He's home now and watching football, but clearly hasn't enjoyed the day. It's just sick that people want to spend their time shopping the day after Christmas! But there we go. It's actually just got to the point where I don't detest shopping at all times. I couldn't go into a shop for 2 years after I left without feeling like I was working, if that makes sense. Merry Christmas to you! I can't really imagine a Christmas in the summer though!
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Dec 26, 2019 23:52:19 GMT
With each year as I get older Christmas itself increasingly becomes something I don't get. I'm sure I enjoyed it as a child but even as early as my teens I started to dread it coming round. The enforced jollity, socialising & sitting about eating rubbish waiting for normality to return. The older you get the quicker it comes round as well. Then to top it off there's New Year's Eve/Day right after it which I hate as well
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Post by Cartman on Dec 27, 2019 0:55:28 GMT
I loved Christmas as a child and still did as a teenager, through the 70s,still fond memories of finishing school early, then we had to go across the road to Stand Church in Whitefield for a Carol service, after which we could go home, usually about 3 in the afternoon. I remember heading home on a cold and slightly snowy late afternoon in probably 73, with my school report, which was an OK one, slightly unusually, on one of Bury Corporations old buses, with two weeks of great TV, presents and Christmas dinner to look forward to.
Started to go off it in the late 80s though, by that stage you stop getting interesting presents!
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Post by Sparky on Dec 27, 2019 10:00:25 GMT
With each year as I get older Christmas itself increasingly becomes something I don't get. I'm sure I enjoyed it as a child but even as early as my teens I started to dread it coming round. The enforced jollity, socialising & sitting about eating rubbish waiting for normality to return. The older you get the quicker it comes round as well. Then to top it off there's New Year's Eve/Day right after it which I hate as well
Christmas is just shoved along by Commercial Greed these days. It seems to start (in the shops) in September. I've seen adverts already for Christmas 2020.
By the middle of October, I've had enough of hearing about it, come December, I want to just get it over and done with.
Christmas has to be organised slightly differently at home as our Youngest is Autistic - and it can be way to easy to Overwhelm him - and the entire thing be too much. (We can't do surprises - he has to know what he will be getting for christmas)
Though if we didn't celebrate Christmas like everyone else - that'd be a big deal for him too.
This year, he couldn't settle and finally got to sleep at 1.30am Christmas morning, woke up at 3.30am (thinking it was 07.30am) - got very angry when he found out it was too early, and threw the bed clothes and contents of the Bathroom downstairs. Christmas day was spent walking on Egg Shells, Boxing-Day walking on Egg Shells and today - a massive comedown - so should be a peaceful day!!
Then there's New Year......
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