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Post by Sparky on Jul 31, 2019 20:58:25 GMT
Anyway stand by for a load more of these, Michael Sheen is out of money!! He could start advertising Furniture Polish.... Mr Sheen ...
Do they still make that stuff? Maybe the ad could do with a Re-boot....
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Aug 1, 2019 0:04:48 GMT
Speaking about how tv has become dumbed down I've just been watching an edition of 'It Was Alright In The 70s'. Taking clips out of context & presenting them like a 'greatest hits' package of bigotry, anyone who doesn't remember these 70's shows must watch the programme thinking that that's all they were about. If anything I think people can often be far less tolerant today precisely because they're so quick to label anything a person says or does as 'offensive' & this show seems to want to reinforce that judgmental attitude.
It's hypocritical in its approach as they've clearly spent hours hunting down clips they can exploit for shock value, 'let's find a clip from On The Buses that we can use as an example of racial stereotyping'. If you watch that particular episode of On The Buses in full ( ie. in context ) you get a very different impression from the one 'It Was Alright In The 70's' gave. It's very unfair on the writers & performers to make it seem like their shows were full of casual prejudice, because they mostly weren't.
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Post by Sparky on Aug 1, 2019 7:51:47 GMT
Speaking about how tv has become dumbed down I've just been watching an edition of 'It Was Alright In The 70s'. Taking clips out of context & presenting them like a 'greatest hits' package of bigotry, anyone who doesn't remember these 70's shows must watch the programme thinking that that's all they were about. If anything I think people can often be far less tolerant today precisely because they're so quick to label anything a person says or does as 'offensive' & this show seems to want to reinforce that judgmental attitude.
It's hypocritical in its approach as they've clearly spent hours hunting down clips they can exploit for shock value, 'let's find a clip from On The Buses that we can use as an example of racial stereotyping'. If you watch that particular episode of On The Buses in full ( ie. in context ) you get a very different impression from the one 'It Was Alright In The 70's' gave. It's very unfair on the writers & performers to make it seem like their shows were full of casual prejudice, because they mostly weren't.
I saw the 'It was alright in the 70s' - and that is exactly how it came across to me. Did you the the 80s version? That wasn't any better - and in some places, was factually wrong.
Some years back, the BBC ran a series on a Saturday night on BBC2 - "I Love...", and each week a particular year would take centre stage, presented by someone who's career had peaked that year. In 1975, Dennis Waterman presented the episode, and it featured the Sweeney.
OK it was a talking heads show(then Z list comediens, mixed with a few A & B list celebs) show mixed with clips - but it was much more watchable and entertaining than "It was alright in the 70s".
I thought it got a bit long in the tooth when they did a series on the 1990s - in 2002.
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Post by Cartman on Aug 1, 2019 8:49:04 GMT
That "It was alright in the 70s" programme is just awful, I can't stand to watch it. Arthur summed it up very well. Lazy clichéd stereotyping taken to extreme.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Aug 1, 2019 18:37:37 GMT
There was a clip of Chris Tarrant visiting a factory where women made underwear, he lightheartedly asked a couple of the workers what type of knickers they were wearing, they cut this with journalist Grace Dent screwing her face up & telling Tarrant to 'stop it' as if he were a sex pest. I don't think at any point they contextualised the clip by explaining that he was doing a humourous item in an underwear factory. If I was Tarrant ( who actually appears as a talking head in one of the other editions ) sitting at home watching that I would've been on the phone to Channel 4 pronto to complain.
Matthew Sweet is the talking head who winds me up most, he wrote a book called 'Shepperton Babylon' that's basically a gossipy muck rake through British cinema personalities. Wouldn't be surprised if 'It Was Alright' was his idea.
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Post by Sparky on Aug 1, 2019 19:24:45 GMT
There was a clip of Chris Tarrant visiting a factory where women made underwear, he lightheartedly asked a couple of the workers what type of knickers they were wearing, they cut this with journalist Grace Dent screwing her face up & telling Tarrant to 'stop it' as if he were a sex pest. I don't think at any point they contextualised the clip by explaining that he was doing a humourous item in an underwear factory. If I was Tarrant ( who actually appears as a talking head in one of the other editions ) sitting at home watching that I would've been on the phone to Channel 4 pronto to complain.
Matthew Sweet is the talking head who winds me up most, he wrote a book called 'Shepperton Babylon' that's basically a gossipy muck rake through British cinema personalities. Wouldn't be surprised if 'It Was Alright' was his idea.
The Chris Tarrant report from a factory was likely to have been a filmed item from ATV-Today, the midlands ITV evening local news magazine. ATV-Today was known for covering literally anything and everything (with only a little bit of serious stuff for 5 mins at the start).
Chris Tarrant started as a reporter on there - and did a ton of stuff you'd possibly never get away with now - from memory... We had late teen Female University Students mud wrestling in a field somewhere near Warwick (at Tea-Time), we had coverage of a Female wet T-shirt competition, during the fuel crisis in 1973, they had bunny girls giving attended service at petrol pumps at a petrol station in Birmingham... then was the "Welly Wanging" from Worcester (people throwing wellington boots as far as they could in a pub carpark).....
Duck Racing in Gloucester...
Evening News at it's best!!!
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Post by Dirty Epic on Aug 1, 2019 19:36:47 GMT
Sounds good to me Sparky better than the pious BBC News 24! Granada used to do similar stuff with Bob Greaves and Tony Wilson in the 70's and 80's too. Can't find Wildon's infamous hang gliding clip I'm afraid.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Aug 1, 2019 19:41:47 GMT
Blimey, mud wrestling & wet t shirts to choose from & they showed that clip!
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Post by Cartman on Aug 1, 2019 20:11:51 GMT
Sounds good to me Sparky better than the pious BBC News 24! Granada used to do similar stuff with Bob Greaves and Tony Wilson in the 70's and 80's too. Can't find Wildon's infamous hang gliding clip I'm afraid. Bob greaves was OK, Tony Wilson was one of those people I could never make my mind up if I liked him or I didn't. He could sometimes be interesting in an odd kind of way, but other times he came across as pretentious and the kind of person who was involved in turning Manchester from a great, gritty and characterful northern city into a place for annoying media types
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Post by Sparky on Aug 2, 2019 6:14:33 GMT
Sounds good to me Sparky better than the pious BBC News 24! Granada used to do similar stuff with Bob Greaves and Tony Wilson in the 70's and 80's too. Can't find Wildon's infamous hang gliding clip I'm afraid. Yes, very different from news from the local police stations, or about if the Pound of dropped!!
The clip of Tony Wilson hang gliding is used in the film "24 hour party people"; it is edited against close ups of Steve Coogan (who played Wilson in the film) - and touches on some of the lighter stories he covered at Granada.
I suppose this all reflects how attitudes have changed. Though, I often question "who's" attitudes - as the ATV-Today style format was carried over into the new Central News in 1982; it continued for about 2-3 years - and then it all got very serious - and then came a myriad of complaints from viewers about the changes.
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