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Post by Del Boy on Nov 2, 2019 23:21:53 GMT
I agree but i bet they do it to access the mental health care due to not being able to afford it under their health insurance system. Even so who would want a family members business on national tv.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Nov 2, 2019 23:57:30 GMT
Hadn't thought of it that way Del, there must be an awful lot of people in the US who aren't getting the help they need & also in this country with our 'care in the community' approach to mental health.
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Post by Del Boy on Nov 3, 2019 0:07:48 GMT
Hadn't thought of it that way Del, there must be an awful lot of people in the US who aren't getting the help they need & also in this country with our 'care in the community' approach to mental health. Its unfortunately true. My wife watches a show called Dr Pimple Popper. A dermatologist basically helps the needy out with some pretty nasty issues. Looking at the patients you know they haven't got insurance to get it sorted otherwise.
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Post by Sparky on Nov 3, 2019 7:42:53 GMT
I agree but i bet they do it to access the mental health care due to not being able to afford it under their health insurance system. Even so who would want a family members business on national tv. Getting the correct support for Mental Health in this country alone is a post-code Lottery full stop.
Though, most of the front line staff at the thick end of the wedge do their best to assist in cases - it's when it "goes above them" that it all goes pear shaped! Could rant for days about many of our first hand experiences with that one.
The system in the US is totally different to ours - and even their "experts" refuse to recognise certain conditions either, basically writing off a section of patients as just "silly" and telling them to "grow up"... great diagnosis.
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Post by Charles Bronson on Nov 3, 2019 18:30:03 GMT
Talking about the medical services in America. I was watching a piece on L.A. the other day and according to the programme, they have sixty thousand people living on the streets in the city, and the sanitation is unbelievably bad with cases of typhoid being reported and a huge increase in the rat population. The narrator said that their are fears of the plague making a comeback.
Despite the housing crisis more and more people are pouring into the city every year. The future looks really grim health wise.
Charles.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Nov 8, 2019 0:32:23 GMT
Live concerts that use holograms of deceased performers such as Buddy Holly, Roy Orbison, Maria Callas, Michael Jackson, etc.
Regardless of what their family, record company or whomever 'owns' their music might decide, none of these people are in a position to give their permission or blessing to be 'resurrected' in hologram form. As a one off thing, eg. Freddie Mercury 'appearing' with Queen for 1 song at a charity event, perhaps it has some value, otherwise it just smacks of exploitation & strikes me as both tacky & distasteful. Let the dead rest in peace.
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Post by Sparky on Nov 8, 2019 7:20:24 GMT
Live concerts that use holograms of deceased performers such as Buddy Holly, Roy Orbison, Maria Callas, Michael Jackson, etc.
Regardless of what their family, record company or whomever 'owns' their music might decide, none of these people are in a position to give their permission or blessing to be 'resurrected' in hologram form. As a one off thing, eg. Freddie Mercury 'appearing' with Queen for 1 song at a charity event, perhaps it has some value, otherwise it just smacks of exploitation & strikes me as both tacky & distasteful. Let the dead rest in peace.
They did something similar with Les Dawson - it was shown on ITV3 a couple of years ago over Christmas. I was impressed in what they did, how they did it - and it did have full co-operation of his family, but at the end of it I was left thinking the same thing as yourself Arthur - what would have Les thought of it?
Indeed, let the Dead rest in peace; which brings me on to my next Room 101 item....
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Post by Sparky on Nov 8, 2019 7:33:21 GMT
Can I add ALL programmes that claim to spend a night/day/week/month in "lockdown" in a reported Haunted place.
Having strong opinions surrounding this type of thing having witnessed for myself a handful of small unexplained incidents in buildings myself - I don't believe in all this "Demons coming back from the dead" thing - that is pure Hollywood. In my early days of work - one early project was on a documentary series for such a subject.
So - stuff like "Most Haunted" I feel just p*ss over every bit of genuine research into the subject; for "Entertainment Purposes" (there is a disclaimer at the start of the shows) All you get is an hour of people running around in the dark, squealing at every bump, knock and scrape. I never realised that kind of thing can work to order.
Early on, they lost the Historical element - which was the only bit I found interesting - I am quite interested as to why whatever it is, is there.
As a result, Youtube has 100s of channels with supposed "Ghost Hunters" doing overnight vigils in Graveyards (why?) and in many buildings - without permission and causing vandalism.
However - I do believe there is an area of science that we don't fully understand - and the general rule seems to be, if a scientist can't explain something - they just try and debunk it. (If, in 1600, you announced that in 400 years time we'd have mobile telecommunications and been able to fly - you'd have been accused of witchcraft and drowned or burnt at the stake).
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Post by Cartman on Nov 8, 2019 7:47:18 GMT
Totally agree Sparky on these ghost hunting programmes, my wife likes them, I think they're absolute rubbish. One of the ones she likes is American, it's called Ghost Adventures and it's even more contrived and stupid than the British one which had Yvette Fielding in it.
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Post by Sparky on Nov 8, 2019 9:39:20 GMT
Totally agree Sparky on these ghost hunting programmes, my wife likes them, I think they're absolute rubbish. One of the ones she likes is American, it's called Ghost Adventures and it's even more contrived and stupid than the British one which had Yvette Fielding in it. I think the American One is "Paranormal Lockdown", there is also "Ghost Hunters" and all that. Thing is - this type of thing doesn't work to order.
So as a TV Director - you have been contracted to make (say) 6 episodes - spending around 2-3 days at each site; and sweet FA happens. You spend 10 days out and about filming, lording it up in hotels with your crew - and you return with 5-10 days of filming showing nothing. Producers would go mad at the expense and time wasted for 'nothing'.
I like the historical element to such shows - and explain the history of the building, it's occupants past & present and why people believe it may be haunted. Lots of that kind of thing can be easily explained.
Though there are some things I have witnessed myself, that no way can't.
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