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Post by Sparky on Aug 31, 2021 6:49:09 GMT
MODERATOR NOTE: This post has been moved from the "Get Carter" thread. STYes sadly 9010 / 55 010 is long gone, it was withdrawn in December '81 but wasn't lucky enough to be preserved. I know some people think the footage was shot from the cab of a Deltic but if it was the camera would have been mounted very high up and the top of the nose would have been in view, it's this that makes me think it was actually filmed from the cab of a 47. Having driven about two hundred 47s and had cab rides on eight of the twenty two Deltics I can confirm that the top of the windscreen on a 47 is lower than the nose of a Deltic! . I think there are three volumes of 'D&E On 35mm' but I can't remember which one the 'Get Carter' footage is in. My son has the same theory as you, regarding the cab the footage for Get Carter was shot from. He also seemed to think it was something other than a Deltic - as you say, you'd see the nose, if they zoomed past the nose - everything would appear larger. There is a 2 part DVD of a Cab Ride between London St P and Sheffield; shot around 1970/71 from the cab of a Peak. According to the sleeve notes, the film was shot as part of an idea to create a simulator for training drivers. It used 2 cameras working in rotation. Not sure how the simulator would have worked.
A great DVD, esp as it passed a lot of my old stomping grounds in the midlands and here in South Yorkshire.
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Post by Villain on Aug 31, 2021 16:09:27 GMT
MODERATOR NOTE: This post has been moved from the "Get Carter" thread. STYes sadly 9010 / 55 010 is long gone, it was withdrawn in December '81 but wasn't lucky enough to be preserved. I know some people think the footage was shot from the cab of a Deltic but if it was the camera would have been mounted very high up and the top of the nose would have been in view, it's this that makes me think it was actually filmed from the cab of a 47. Having driven about two hundred 47s and had cab rides on eight of the twenty two Deltics I can confirm that the top of the windscreen on a 47 is lower than the nose of a Deltic! . I think there are three volumes of 'D&E On 35mm' but I can't remember which one the 'Get Carter' footage is in. My son has the same theory as you, regarding the cab the footage for Get Carter was shot from. He also seemed to think it was something other than a Deltic - as you say, you'd see the nose, if they zoomed past the nose - everything would appear larger. There is a 2 part DVD of a Cab Ride between London St P and Sheffield; shot around 1970/71 from the cab of a Peak. According to the sleeve notes, the film was shot as part of an idea to create a simulator for training drivers. It used 2 cameras working in rotation. Not sure how the simulator would have worked.
A great DVD, esp as it passed a lot of my old stomping grounds in the midlands and here in South Yorkshire. I know that two part Midland Mainline dvd you mentioned very well, a while ago one of the lads at work lent me his VHS copy. I remember how slow it seemed the first time I watched it! I sign the Midland from London as far as Toton (via Market Harborough and via Corby) so it was interesting to see how much (and how little) has changed since 1971. I'm 100% certain that the 'Get Carter' footage was shot from the cab of a 47 . Villain
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Post by Villain on Aug 31, 2021 16:11:56 GMT
MODERATOR NOTE: This post has been moved from the "Get Carter" thread. STDid you ever drive a Deltic Villain? Sadly not, but the cab rides I had on them in BR were very memorable. The Inspector who passed me out for driving used to be based at Kings X and drove all of them many times, he actually started out based at Exeter and managed to drive all seventy four of the Westerns too, plus several Warships and Hymeks . Villain
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Post by Sparky on Sept 1, 2021 5:59:37 GMT
MODERATOR NOTE: This post has been moved from the "Get Carter" thread. STMy son has the same theory as you, regarding the cab the footage for Get Carter was shot from. He also seemed to think it was something other than a Deltic - as you say, you'd see the nose, if they zoomed past the nose - everything would appear larger. There is a 2 part DVD of a Cab Ride between London St P and Sheffield; shot around 1970/71 from the cab of a Peak. According to the sleeve notes, the film was shot as part of an idea to create a simulator for training drivers. It used 2 cameras working in rotation. Not sure how the simulator would have worked.
A great DVD, esp as it passed a lot of my old stomping grounds in the midlands and here in South Yorkshire. I know that two part Midland Mainline dvd you mentioned very well, a while ago one of the lads at work lent me his VHS copy. I remember how slow it seemed the first time I watched it! I sign the Midland from London as far as Toton (via Market Harborough and via Corby) so it was interesting to see how much (and how little) has changed since 1971. I'm 100% certain that the 'Get Carter' footage was shot from the cab of a 47 . Villain Not been to Toton for a little while. I think they've had a bit of a clear out down there since our last trip. There were (as you will know) 100s of class 60s lined up, lurking in corners and on every siding available.
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Post by Villain on Sept 1, 2021 19:19:40 GMT
MODERATOR NOTE: This post has been moved from the "Get Carter" thread. STI know that two part Midland Mainline dvd you mentioned very well, a while ago one of the lads at work lent me his VHS copy. I remember how slow it seemed the first time I watched it! I sign the Midland from London as far as Toton (via Market Harborough and via Corby) so it was interesting to see how much (and how little) has changed since 1971. I'm 100% certain that the 'Get Carter' footage was shot from the cab of a 47 . Villain Not been to Toton for a little while. I think they've had a bit of a clear out down there since our last trip. There were (as you will know) 100s of class 60s lined up, lurking in corners and on every siding available.
Had to go to Toton today actually, there still a lot of 60s there, scattered around the whole site, some of them have trees and bushed growing through them, most will never run again sadly. Villain
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Post by Cartman on Sept 1, 2021 21:12:38 GMT
I think only one 60 has been scrapped so far, but most are now stored out of use.
The only locos I seem to see working now are 66s and 70s, usually on the binliner trains on the mid Cheshire line or the Drax biomass workings, on the same line. Deansgate and Navigation Road crossings in Timperley are good places to see them, I sometimes have to wait for them to pass when I'm on my delivery van runs.
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Post by Mickyosan on Nov 22, 2021 20:11:52 GMT
Most of the yards and sidings at Stratford are now long gone Sparky, they've disappeared under the site of the Olympics venue. Villain A bit late to this thread but the Professionals ‘Stratford sidings’ were Thornton Fields (TF) carriage sidings, on the west (London) side of Channelsea curve. They are long gone and were redeveloped as part of the Olympics redevelopment.
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Post by Cartman on Nov 26, 2021 13:04:48 GMT
A question for Villain, do they still have telegraphic codes for rolling stock? I think it was a GWR idea which BR adopted after nationalisation. Each type of vehicle had a code name, which were very random. A brake van was a Toad, a parcels van was a Siphon, a Presflo was for carrying cement, and so on, although the open wagon was, rather unimaginatively, called open.
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Post by Sparky on Dec 14, 2021 14:10:47 GMT
A question for Villain, do they still have telegraphic codes for rolling stock? I think it was a GWR idea which BR adopted after nationalisation. Each type of vehicle had a code name, which were very random. A brake van was a Toad, a parcels van was a Siphon, a Presflo was for carrying cement, and so on, although the open wagon was, rather unimaginatively, called open. I never knew this.
I know some loco classes had nicknames - Class 08's were known as "Gonks", Class 25s known as "Rats", Class 60s "Tugs", Class 37 "Tractors", Class 20s "Choppers", and I think Class 40s were known "Whistlers". For some reason the Class 31s were known as "Toffee Apples".....
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Post by Cartman on Dec 14, 2021 20:35:15 GMT
A class 47 is a Duff, a 50 a Hoover. On steam locos, a class 3 tank was a Jinty, a 4F a Derby Four. There are probably more😀
The Heljan model of a 47 is, apparently, too wide and is overscale, so it is called a Tubbyduff!
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