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Post by Sparky on Nov 23, 2021 19:45:12 GMT
They got a pat on the back from ATV and something from Lew Grade, a bravery certificate from the Fire Service and a b***ocking from the Police for going in unaided without prior knowledge of if there was any other explosives about.
Sometimes you just have to act even with an unknown risk. I often wonder what I would have done in that same situation. Would I have ditched the gear and waded in to help. I think I would have, regardless of risk - but it's easy to say that in the comfort of an armchair; when you are there in the thick of it, not knowing what the hell is going on - it's hard to say what you'd do.
Thing is, for me, it also shows how things have changed in the world. These days - (if any car accident is anything to go by) people would be stood about with their phones out and posting it all over social media.
In fact, that happened yesterday in our locality - an 80 y/o lady was knocked over - and is in hospital with serious head injuries. It's 50/50 what the outcome will be. The police closed the road to gather evidence "just in case".
The driver, meanwhile did a runner.
Thing is - out of about 20 people, 2 went to help - the rest dug out their phones... b*stards. 
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Post by Three Litre on Nov 23, 2021 19:59:14 GMT
You're right there matey, you never know quite how you'd react in a given situation.
Couple of years ago when driving home I noticed some activity on a bridge over a dual carriage way, I spotted that there was a person on the wrong side of the fence on the side of the bridge i.e. one step from a thirty foot drop onto 70mph traffic.
I pulled up and jumped out and held one side of her whilst a middle aged lady held the other, then a younger man came up and relieved the lady, we had a tight grip so she couldn't have jumped if she wanted to anyway. Before that though there were a number of people just stood around with just the lady holding her and she could never have prevented her jumping on her own.
I'm no hero, just didn't want a young woman to lose her life.
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Post by Sparky on Nov 23, 2021 20:02:17 GMT
You're right there matey, you never know quite how you'd react in a given situation. Couple of years ago when driving home I noticed some activity on a bridge over a dual carriage way, I spotted that there was a person on the wrong side of the fence on the side of the bridge i.e. one step from a thirty foot drop onto 70mph traffic. I pulled up and jumped out and held one side of her whilst a middle aged lady held the other, then a younger man came up and relieved the lady, we had a tight grip so she couldn't have jumped if she wanted to anyway. Before that though there were a number of people just stood around with just the lady holding her and she could never have prevented her jumping on her own. I'm no hero, just didn't want a young woman to lose her life. Good going 3L  And to those who also helped.
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Post by Three Litre on Nov 23, 2021 20:42:55 GMT
On the subject of re-used film sets, mention of UFO on another thread made me remember that I'm sure I've seen some of those sets re-used on Jon Pertwee Dr Who from 70/71, which makes sense timewise but two different TV companies of course.
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Post by Cartman on Nov 23, 2021 21:50:11 GMT
Didn't Carry on Cleo reuse some of the sets from the previous years epic production of Cleopatra with Richard Burton and Liz Taylor?
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Post by The Saint on Nov 24, 2021 9:28:44 GMT
Didn't Carry on Cleo reuse some of the sets from the previous years epic production of Cleopatra with Richard Burton and Liz Taylor? Yes that’s correct Cartman. The Saint |
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Post by Sparky on Nov 24, 2021 11:15:43 GMT
On the subject of re-used film sets, mention of UFO on another thread made me remember that I'm sure I've seen some of those sets re-used on Jon Pertwee Dr Who from 70/71, which makes sense timewise but two different TV companies of course. Some of the UFO exteriors still appear as the exterior of Holby City. I did post a ton of UFO behind the scenes photos somewhere - possibly in the Media Treasure Chest section. I think I have some more to post yet too.
The Sweeney standing set of the squad office, built in the old Gym at Colet Court was (aparently) used by a French Film company once Euston Films had finished with it in 1978. Not sure what film it was, what company or even if it's true.
Locations will get re-used, especially those who are quite favourable towards film crews rolling up, if the money is right. In particular in London - you had to square up any filming with the Council and Police of that Borough - ie acquire a permit. So any boroughs and police forces who were more than helpful would go on an unofficial "recommended list" others not so favorable would go on a "black list" (AKA a "Pain in the ar*e list").
Film companies - such as Euston Films and ITC for instance used a regular rotation of crews, and with continuing series - they would have principle crew members (Location Managers etc) working on pre-production on the next episode while another was shooting. This kept the 'machine' running smoothly, kept them in budget and also on time and in the pub.
It's how Euston Film operated.
They would also have a favourable location list, that was shared between Directors/Location managers - so quite often, the same locations and sets would easily roll up masquerading as something else in later episodes.
Schools & Colleges are good places - during 1/2 term, as they have Labs, Gyms, Offices etc - and a Film Unit can acquire a number of different scenes/locations - without the need to keep loading up trucks and carting it all around.
Most jobs I have worked on restrict to two Locations a Day (that's moving the entire unit/equipment elsewhere)- I've been on jobs where we've done three at a push - Peak Practice and the Nottingham episodes of Boon were notorious for this as they sometimes over ran and due to various industrial issues - certain unions (ours) refused to let us work weekends unless obscene amounts of overtime had been agreed.
And with those, you did return to locations in later episodes - they'd be dressed differently.
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Post by Sparky on Nov 26, 2021 12:12:28 GMT
Very interesting Sparky, so the subtitlers are like stenographers.
By sheer freak coincidence, I stumbled across this while hunting for a programmable / assignable keys keyboard....
Arthur - you were spot on; the Keyboards then used for subtitling were the Palantype keyboards - quite similar to what Stenographers used in courtroom.
As you will see in link, the keyboard layouts are slightly different to a standard QWERTY, and it all based on multiple buttons being pressed. So I think, kind of like the predictive text we get with mobile phones these days.
The vowels are in the centre of the keyboard, and in effect you type syllables or sounds.
Not sure if any one on the forum is well up on Palentype?
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Nov 26, 2021 17:40:06 GMT
Interesting Sparky. The predictive text must account for some of the funny subtitles you often see on live broadcasts.
Having said that you often see bizarre pre recorded subtitles as well, I've had the subs on whilst watching The Sweeney on ITV4, some I remember from 'On The Run' are 'bum diddly off' for 'comfortably off' & when George does an Oliver Hardy impersonation ( 'that's another nice mess you've got me into' ) at the cricket ground the subtitles read 'imitates John Arlott' 
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Post by Sparky on Nov 26, 2021 17:59:24 GMT
Interesting Sparky. The predictive text must account for some of the funny subtitles you often see on live broadcasts.
Having said that you often see bizarre pre recorded subtitles as well, I've had the subs on whilst watching The Sweeney on ITV4, some I remember from 'On The Run' are 'bum diddly off' for 'comfortably off' & when George does an Oliver Hardy impersonation ( 'that's another nice mess you've got me into' ) at the cricket ground the subtitles read 'imitates John Arlott' 
I gather a lot of subtitles more recently are done by Speech recognition software - where the soundtrack is played through a computer; the software (somehow) desyphers who is saying what. That would give a lot if scope for errors.
I've seen some total treats come up on the subtitles - One of the best was seeing "ITV" come up as "Eye Tee Vee".... That's opposed to "Bee Bee Cee Won"
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