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Post by Cartman on Jan 24, 2021 22:27:16 GMT
Laurie Penny. She's a columnist and occasionally turns up on Question Time, and is absolutely awful. She's now in her mid 30s but affects being a student and is a cartoon radical, the nearest possible real life equivalent of Millie Tant in Viz. She insists on being referred to as "they/them" and came from a privileged background but plays at being a rebel. She has to turn everything round to a political rant. If she went to the fair and saw the coconut shy, she would probably go and do an article in The Guardian about cocophobia.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Jan 24, 2021 23:49:17 GMT
Her wikipedia page is funny, it's written using they/them, eg. 'Penny says that they are of Irish, Jewish, and Maltese descent', 'They grew up in Brighton', etc. The problem is, with so few people taking the gender neutral language seriously, it just sounds silly & confusing when someone is refered to as 'they/them' rather than 'she/her'.
Why make an issue out of it in any case? It's unrealistic to expect others to not refer to you as 'she/her' if you appear to be female & secondly why should you care how others refer to you? How you feel about yourself matters only to yourself & perhaps your loved ones, no one else gives a toss. I think this is more about people wanting to feel important or superior, the equivalent of people insisting others call them Sir, Dame, OBE, etc.
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Post by Cartman on Jan 25, 2021 17:16:15 GMT
Yes, I didn't get that strange wording on the Wikipedia page. Where did this rubbish come from? It puts me in mind of people who think the earth is flat.
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Post by Three Litre on Jan 25, 2021 17:22:07 GMT
Yes, I didn't get that strange wording on the Wikipedia page. Where did this rubbish come from? It puts me in mind of people who think the earth is flat. What! It's not flat! You'll be telling me people really went to the moon next. I need a glass of sherry and a sit down.
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Post by Sparky on Jan 25, 2021 17:57:04 GMT
You'll be telling me people really went to the moon next. Where do you think all the Cheese comes from?
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Jan 25, 2021 18:09:29 GMT
I think it originates from university gender studies courses & then got widespread publicity when the Canadian academic Jordan Peterson, who I think was sacked from his university post after objecting to the use of gender neutral prounouns, became famous, appearing on Question Time & Channel 4 News.
That said I think the media have made too much of it, stories about people demanding 'gender neutral toilets', etc. when really it's just a few attention seeking feminists on twitter. Aren't most of these movements and ideas, whether it's for or against, basically about people wanting attention? 'Look at me' is all they're really saying in the end. If we accepted things we can't realistically change, ignored things we don't like & kept ourselves to ourselves more we'd be a lot better off.
One thing I hate about the internet is how its given a voice to people who we'd all be better off not hearing.
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Post by Three Litre on Jan 25, 2021 18:59:28 GMT
Her wikipedia page is funny, it's written using they/them, eg. 'Penny says that they are of Irish, Jewish, and Maltese descent', 'They grew up in Brighton', etc. The problem is, with so few people taking the gender neutral language seriously, it just sounds silly & confusing when someone is refered to as 'they/them' rather than 'she/her'.
Why make an issue out of it in any case? It's unrealistic to expect others to not refer to you as 'she/her' if you appear to be female & secondly why should you care how others refer to you? How you feel about yourself matters only to yourself & perhaps your loved ones, no one else gives a toss. I think this is more about people wanting to feel important or superior, the equivalent of people insisting others call them Sir, Dame, OBE, etc.
Well, I'm not calling anyone they or them, it's nuts It's either he or her or hey you stupid.
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Post by Sparky on Jan 26, 2021 12:22:13 GMT
That said I think the media have made too much of it, stories about people demanding 'gender neutral toilets', etc. when really it's just a few attention seeking feminists on twitter. Aren't most of these movements and ideas, whether it's for or against, basically about people wanting attention? 'Look at me' is all they're really saying in the end. If we accepted things we can't realistically change, ignored things we don't like & kept ourselves to ourselves more we'd be a lot better off.
One thing I hate about the internet is how its given a voice to people who we'd all be better off not hearing.
The media make too much of everything. Indeed - the Internet has given a voice to Keyboard Warriors and those best kept with their mouth firmly closed.
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Post by Sam Tyler on Feb 9, 2021 22:39:37 GMT
The next candidates for Room 101 are the wasters that have phoned me three times today to tell me that: 1) my internet is going to be cut off in the next 24 hours, 2) my computer has been infected by a virus, and 3) my Virgin media download speed is fluctuating. For the first two I was told to press '1' to be put through to an executive to correct the matter. The first was an oriental woman with a very strong, maybe Chinese, accent who introduced herself as "Jane", the second was an automated recording in pigeon English, and the third sounded to be Indian, again with a very strong accent who introduced himself as "James". By this point I interrupted him and said "James or whatever your real name is, do me a favour, go and get yourself a proper job and stop wasting my time, I know you're not calling from Virgin media!". It would have been stronger if my daughter wasn't in the next room to me. It gets on my thrupennies how these people continually try to exploit the more vulnerable people in society, completely without recourse since their caller ID numbers are randomly generated so can't be reported. Sam I received the latest phone scam on my mobile twice today. Apparently the HMRC are going to withdraw my National Insurance number in the next 24 hours due to criminal activity. It seems that the police will come around, I'll get my assets seized (Ooh Matron!) and I could be arrested. But, if I pressed '1' they would take me through the criminal charges and issue me with a new National Insurance number! The recorded voice sounded quite highbrow and official too. Still, at least I escaped doing time and can make a fresh start in life with my new NI number.... Sam.
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Post by Del Boy on Feb 9, 2021 23:03:39 GMT
These scams seemed to have ramped up recently. Taking advantage of people locked down no doubt.
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