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Post by Arthur Pringle on Dec 8, 2016 15:32:04 GMT
Interesting. Of course if Brady & Hindley had hanged the bodies of the children they murdered would never have been discovered. From the documentaries I've watched the thing that has mattered most to the victims is the recovery of any remains & being able to dignify the lives lost by giving them a proper burial. The mother of Keith Bennett wanted nothing more than for Brady or Hindley to disclose the whereabouts of her son's body, she died without that 'closure' & had Brady & Hindley been hanged the other families would've had to live with that terrible uncertainty. I saw a documentary recently where an officer involved in the case stated that he didn't believe in taking Brady's life away, 'let him suffer' were his words. Who would disagree that any suffering Brady has endured is preferable to what would've been a quick death at the end of a rope.
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Post by Vienna on Dec 8, 2016 21:52:59 GMT
The death penalty was suspended on a trial basis for 5 years in 1964, the last hangings were at Strangeways, Manchester in 64, and was actually abolished in 1969. Britain was one of the first countries to abolish it.
One factor which might have influenced public opinion was the fact that Hindley and Brady were caught just after the suspension came into force and therefore narrowly escaped being hanged. It was actually 1965 that it was suspended, although the last person was hanged in 1964. Labour MP Sydney Silverman introduced a Private Member's Bill in November which led to its abolition in the UK. David Chapman was the last man to be sentenced to death but it was not carried out.
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Post by Charles Bronson on Dec 9, 2016 15:53:21 GMT
I was talking to one of my relatives earlier today and they seemed to think that the series wasn't too bad, so I might just give it a go after all. The relative's judgement is usually good on films and TV. I might watch an episode at the weekend. I definately want to read up on the actual case.
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Post by Cartman on Dec 14, 2016 11:14:42 GMT
I watched the final part last night and felt that, although Roth's performance as Christie was excellent, it skimmed over the details of his conviction and the details of how he was caught too much. The West Indian guy, Beresford Brown, who Christie let his room to after he left the house discovered the bodies, and this was missed out
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Dec 14, 2016 14:22:09 GMT
The West Indian who discovers the bodies in the film is played by 'Love Thy Neighbour''s Rudolph Walker, quite funny that.
The blu ray of the film includes an interview with Judy Geeson, she mentions that they couldn't use no.10 because the tenants, a West Indian family, were afraid they'd be evicted if they allowed people into the house. They actually used no.7 Rillington Place but only for exteriors & a few interior pov shots looking through the downstairs window, the rest was shot in studio.
I watched the film again & whilst it looks/sounds really good on blu ray I felt it wasn't as good as I remember. The reviewer in the Time Out film guide I have describes it as a 'melodrama' & I think that's right, you don't get a sense of why Christie commited the crimes & how he was able to get away with it. The film is more a star vehicle for Attenborough & Hurt who I feel give rather theatrical 'performances'.
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Post by Gene Hunt on Dec 14, 2016 15:30:27 GMT
Does Hurt ever vary his performance from Theatrical? I've yet to witness him act any other way.
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Post by Cartman on Dec 14, 2016 15:47:37 GMT
He was in an episode of The Sweeney once, series 3, Tomorrow Man. Also, Arthur, I think Christie was able to get away with it as long as he did due to the police investigation and searches being so poor
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Post by Dirty Epic on Dec 14, 2016 16:05:35 GMT
Does Hurt ever vary his performance from Theatrical? I've yet to witness him act any other way. Gene. How about in Alien? :lol:
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Dec 14, 2016 19:52:25 GMT
Hurt's performance in 'Tomorrow Man', obviously particularly in the pre credits scenes with George Cole, is totally OTT & he is a 'big' actor. He did resemble Timothy Evans though & from what Judy Geeson says he was cast for this reason, in fact there is a moment in the film where Hurt has just the same haunted look Evans has in the photograph of his arrest.
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Post by Charles Bronson on Dec 14, 2016 21:33:00 GMT
I have the impression that when I first saw 10 Rillington Place years ago, the opening scenes were of the West Indian immigrants tearing the old wallpaper and plaster away and discovering the bodies. Yet when I watched the first five minutes last week, the opening scene was of Christie in the process of murdrering one of his victims during WW 2 I must have misremembered it, as they say. The Sweeney episode that Hurt was in is actually one of my least favourite ones. I suppose he is more or less the same in his various stuff. I never watched his Quentin Crisp films. Not my cup of tea really. Hurt's father was a Vicar. I remember spending about five minutes or so chatting to him years ago at a christening, when he was based where I used to live.
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