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Post by Gene Hunt on Dec 7, 2016 18:52:32 GMT
Well said Arthur. What on earth is that prat Hurt wearing in those smudges? And that bird he's with, Volpeliere Pierrot.... Was she any relation to Ben from Curiosity Killed The Cat? She met a sad end by all accounts. Falling off a nag in 1983. Great photos too Gene.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Dec 7, 2016 19:49:23 GMT
You wouldn't see Tony Gray ( or his doppelganger ) wearing a velvet number like that, I bet John Hurt would shudder looking at that today. I thought she might be related to Ben Vol-au-vent Parrot, she was his aunt apparently.
I got the 10 Rillington Place blu ray a few days ago, it comes with a nice booklet featuring some on set photos similar to the ones I posted. Not watched it yet, thought I'd wait until nearer the festive period.
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Post by Vienna on Dec 7, 2016 21:47:51 GMT
My parents, both in their eighties, apparently decided to sit down and watch the new TV version when it first aired. They switched it off after 10 minutes! Vi
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Post by Charles Bronson on Dec 7, 2016 21:52:12 GMT
It's a brilliant film, but I'd find it hard to watch again. It's a bit harrowing. I think I must be getting a bit squeamish as I get older.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Dec 7, 2016 23:44:21 GMT
Not sure if it was intentional or not but there are some funny moments. A favourite scene is where Christie is in the dosshouse, he talks about himself in a self important way & the tramp in the next bed murmurs 'pig', Christie gives him a 'how dare you' look & says 'well if that's how you're going to talk, exactly what I'd expect of course' then lies back pompously on his bed as if he's above it all. Also the parts where Christie makes out he has medical knowledge, 'I've just been studying some medical texts' he says as he hands Evans a first aid handbook, 'Carbon Monoxide or CO2 as we call it', describing the gas as 'stuff' & getting words wrong, saying 'unexperienced' rather than 'inexperienced'. There's an interview on the dvd with Attenborough & he says it was one of the perfomances he 'wasn't ashamed of', very modest of him to put it like that as it implies he didn't consider himself a good actor.
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Post by Cartman on Dec 8, 2016 9:37:20 GMT
Agree Arthur, the film is much better. To me this TV series is too disjointed
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Post by Charles Bronson on Dec 8, 2016 11:26:32 GMT
The film was so good, it make you wonder why they made a series about the Christie murders ? They could have put the money and effort into another project.
I think they finally pardoned Evans (Who got the blame for murder.) in the sixties or seventies. Apparently it was one of the cases that made them do away with the death penalty eventually.
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Post by Cartman on Dec 8, 2016 14:07:24 GMT
Yes, he was pardoned in 1966, although his conviction wasn't actually quashed until about 2004.
It was one of three controversial 1950s cases which led to the abolition of the death penalty, the others were Derek Bentley, who didn't actually kill, but shouted the ambiguous instruction "let him have it" to his 16 year old accomplice in a robbery, when he was confronted by a policeman, and he was holding a gun. He shot the policeman, but it was argued that he could have meant hand the gun over. The killer couldnt be hanged as he was classed as a minor, but Bentley was.
The other was Ruth Ellis, who was the last woman to be hanged, here it was established correctly that she had committed the murder, but there was a strong feeling that a crime of passion, committed by a woman didn't constitute a danger to society at large and the death penalty was unnecessary.
The police investigation, and searches, into the Rillington Place killings were shoddy in the extreme
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Dec 8, 2016 15:03:40 GMT
I've been watching Richard Attenborough talk about the film, he mentions that around the time before the film was made an MP was making noises about reinstating the death penalty & his primary reason for getting the film made was his own opposition to the death penalty. No idea what the public mood was then & how likely the restoration of the death penalty was. I watched the British trailer for the film & it is not subtle, it's very sensationalistic & exploitative, you would not see it & think the film was an anti death penalty statement. Although I'm sure Attenborough & others involved were sincere in their beliefs, they were making a commercial film about a notorious multiple murderer/rapist & it was made & marketed as such. Does the film make viewers think about the value of life & whether the state should be given the right to decide whether a person lives or dies? I've seen it several times & it's never seemed like that kind of film to me.
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Post by Cartman on Dec 8, 2016 15:07:19 GMT
The death penalty was suspended on a trial basis for 5 years in 1964, the last hangings were at Strangeways, Manchester in 64, and was actually abolished in 1969. Britain was one of the first countries to abolish it.
One factor which might have influenced public opinion was the fact that Hindley and Brady were caught just after the suspension came into force and therefore narrowly escaped being hanged.
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