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Post by Cartman on Nov 30, 2016 11:47:23 GMT
Anyone see this which was on BBC1 last night, with Tim Roth and Samantha Morton? Ive recorded it but not watched it yet. I don't know how it will compare with the 1971 film version with Richard Attenborough and John Hurt which was brilliant. Attenborough was superb as Christie, portraying his creepiness. Also, it was filmed in the actual place, Rillington Place was still there then, it was demolished not long afterwards.
I thought the film captured the atmosphere of post war London superbly, which was run down and a bit shabby, but very atmospheric and compelling. A lot of this was still there in the early 70s, witness the Sweeney.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Nov 30, 2016 17:06:47 GMT
I planned on seeing it but forgot to watch it, as you say the 1971 film is excellent & by the looks of the trailer this version has been modelled on it. The film has just been released on UK blu ray. One of the best British films of the 70's I think, Attenborough may be rather camp as Christie but what an entertaining performance as the self important Christie.
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Post by Charles Bronson on Nov 30, 2016 17:31:17 GMT
I saw a few seconds of last night's Rillington Place, when I switched channels, but my first thought was why make a TV series about Christie when there's such a brilliant film available to watch on the subject. The bit in the film when Evans played by John Hurt is getting hung, always stuck in my mind. There was also of course that horrible bit when Christie puts the mask over his poor victims faces. I'm not sure if Attenborough got an award for his performance, if not he should have done.
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Post by Vienna on Nov 30, 2016 18:26:02 GMT
I haven't seen it myself, but I doubt it would be as good as the original film. As you say Cartman, the film crew used the actual property where Christie carried out his crimes, and this makes the movie more chilling IMO. My father remembers the area well at the time as being run down and rather seedy.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Nov 30, 2016 19:35:17 GMT
It does seem odd that they'd do a tv version of this case. Although I find films on real life cases such as this compelling, you wonder how ethical it is, if only because there would be relatives of his victims still living. 'The Black Panther', based on Donald Nielson's crimes, in particular is a difficult film to watch & you wonder how the family of the young girl who died such a lonely & horrible death felt about it. The exception to this is if a film or play raises awareness of a particular issue ( in Rillington Place's case the miscarriage of justice against Timothy Evans ) & has some positive effect or message. I think doing a film about a real life case for the sake of entertainment alone is very dubious.
Wonder if the actor playing Hurt's character will repeat the most famous line in the film- 'Christie done it', according to Hurt on the dvd commentary that line became a catchphrase on the set of the film, whenever anything went wrong the crew would say 'Christie done it'.
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Post by Sam Tyler on Nov 30, 2016 20:43:34 GMT
I thought the film was very well done and have ripped a copy of it on to the media server at home. I will be watching it again sometime soon but, as mentioned above, as it was filmed in the actual location i have doubts that the series will be able to capture the same level of intensity.
I have recorded it though so will be giving it a go.
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Post by Dirty Epic on Dec 1, 2016 11:00:58 GMT
I'll try and catch this on the iPlayer etc.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Dec 1, 2016 14:02:26 GMT
I watched the first part last night, thought it was ok but I wouldn't be too bothered if I missed the other 2 parts. About what I expected it to be- everyone looking a bit too young for their parts, constant 'creepy' incidental music & horror film type photography. The street itself looked quite authentic but I don't think they captured the mood of the period like the film did. Roth was ok as Christie, he reminded me more of Donald Sumpter in 'The Black Panther' than Attenborough. One thing I noticed that doesn't bode well for the rest of it is that the actor playing Timothy Evans has a Welsh accent in the opening titles scenes, but when he appears at the end of the episode he has a London accent.
Attenborough was not quite 47 when he played Christie, Roth is 55.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Dec 1, 2016 21:38:32 GMT
Smudges from the filming and film premiere of 10 Rillington Place- "Filming begins of "10 Rillington Place", the story of mass-murderer John Reginald Christie, who was hanged in 1953. Richard Attenborough, who plays the "bald, bespectacled, benign" Christie. May 1970" "As a nine-year-old, actress Isobel Black - pictured below with Richard Attenborough - lived only a stone's throw from the Notting Hill home of mass-murderer John Christie. Now, seventeen years later, she's back in the area making a film of the murders, with Attenborough in the role of Christie. They're pictured during break in filming outside the house of death in Rillington Place, now renamed Ruston Close. Isobel says: "I remember the murders, but I can't recall Christie although I must have seen him many times" June 1970 Actor John Hurt Pictured With Sir Richard Attenborough And Attenborough's Wife Actress Shelia Sim At The Premiere Of 10 Rillington Place. 30 Jan 1971 John Hurt and his partner Marie-Lise Volpeliere-Pierrot arrive for the premiere of 10 Rillington Place, at The Columbia theatre, Shaftesbury Avenue, London, W1. In the film, which is set in West London in the mid to late 1940s, John Hurt plays illiterate Timothy Evans, who under stress wrongly confesses to a murder he did not commit, and hangs. The film also stars Richard Attenborough as the murdering John Christie, who himself, is eventually caught and tried. 10 Rillington Place is a true story. Picture taken 28th January 1971 Director Richard Fleischer
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Dec 7, 2016 16:13:13 GMT
Watching the second episode of Rillington Place you appreciate how good the film is. I don't think I'll bother watching the final part, it's all very flat & uninvolving. Making Christie a background figure & not showing the crimes at all is fair enough, but if the writers wanted us to think about the victims why have they made the programme as 'creepy' as they possibly can? I think it's hypocritical to take a notorious case & make a horror story out of it with dry ice, dark music, etc. then claim you made the programme to remember the victims. Just be honest & say that it's not possible to show women being strangled, gassed & worse at 9pm on the BBC.
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