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Post by Villain on Feb 16, 2016 14:11:07 GMT
I finished watching 'Out' last night so I'm hoping to get stuck into this tonight Villain
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Post by Gene Hunt on Feb 22, 2016 18:24:00 GMT
Well, it seems I've been watching these in the wrong order, but I don't think it matters. I've now watched "A Brief's Tale" & "A Prisoners Tale" and they are superb. Very of their time but an outstanding performance so far from Peter Dean. It is also good to see some familiar Sweeney faces, such as Eric Kent & Terry Plummer actually having talking parts. You'll also see Roy Sone (Arty Ward from Loving Arms), Deidre Costello (Gwen Kibber in Selected Target) & Derek Martin (Alby Spooner in Messenger Of The Gods) to name a few.
I won't give anything away to spoil it for those of you who are still to watch it though. If you still haven't forked out the pennies for this, what are you waiting for?
Gene.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Feb 23, 2016 0:15:09 GMT
The narrative of Law And Order is very cleverly constructed. It's possible to watch the plays as stand alone pieces of tv, particularly the last part which isn't as interwoven as the first 3 tales. Watching GF Newman talk about L&O on the extra it was his intention to show that all the characters involved were interchangeable, that every person is as guilty as the last. Understandably the police, prison & legal system were all very concerned about the way they were portrayed. Much the same thing happened when the original tv play of 'Scum' was made, but in this case the BBC shelved it & it was not broadcast until many years later. It's interesting seeing the likes of Aitch's mate Barry Summerford & heavy Terry Plummer acting rather than playing second fiddle to the 'proper' actors. I don't think enough of this kind of tv was made, where not entirely professional actors & filming techniques usually seen in documentaries are used. Also seen in a brief speaking part is Eric French, best known as the 'white haired bloke' in the Sweeney closing titles. Doug Sheldon is another interesting face, like Roy Sone he was a pop singer in the 60's. I think Roy Sone is brilliant as Micky Fielder, I wonder why his acting credits are so few & what became of him?
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Feb 25, 2016 13:32:44 GMT
Picked up this BFI book on Law And Order from amazon for a couple of quid. They got Roy Sone's name wrong...what a wicked liberty. Transmission dates for Law And Order- BBC2 6/13/20/27 Apr 1978 9pm Contrary to popular belief it was repeated in 1980 on BBC2 9/16/23/30 Mar 1980 10.25pm ( and 10.05pm, 10.30pm ) Also shown at the NFT 27 Oct 1979, followed by a discussion with GF Newman, producer Tony Garnett & others. An event in April 2008 was held at the NFT to mark the dvd release & attended by cast & crew members. Couple of stills from Derek Martin's website-
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Post by Mickyosan on Mar 21, 2016 20:38:17 GMT
Some great trawling through the history books and provision of information there Arthur, as per usual. I've still not watched my DVDs yet but sort this shortly. Glad my original post from the most random of searches has lead many people to this series, including myself.
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Post by Del Boy on Mar 21, 2016 22:42:07 GMT
Some great trawling through the history books and provision of information there Arthur, as per usual. I've still not watched my DVDs yet but sort this shortly. Glad my original post from the most random of searches has lead many people to this series, including myself. I watched it last week and really enjoyed it. Its the best 4 quid I ever spent on a dvd. Thanks very much for the original post Micky. It really struck a cord about the state of things back then but the beauty of this series is the way the story is told. It follows the different parties from their point of view and this format works really well. We all know that villains were sometimes used to clear the books but still it seems shocking to see the scale of corruption in the 1970's justice system. As was said earlier loads of Sweeney faces appear including Aitch. Arty Ward is still up to no good this time doing a spot of grassing. If you like the Sweeney its worth giving this a spin.
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Post by Dirty Epic on Mar 22, 2016 10:16:04 GMT
Some great trawling through the history books and provision of information there Arthur, as per usual. I've still not watched my DVDs yet but sort this shortly. Glad my original post from the most random of searches has lead many people to this series, including myself. I watched it last week and really enjoyed it. Its the best 4 quid I ever spent on a dvd. Thanks very much for the original post Micky. It really struck a cord about the state of things back then but the beauty of this series is the way the story is told. It follows the different parties from their point of view and this format works really well. We all know that villains were sometimes used to clear the books but still it seems shocking to see the scale of corruption in the 1970's justice system. As was said earlier loads of Sweeney faces appear including Aitch. Arty Ward is still up to no good this time doing a spot of grassing. If you like the Sweeney its worth giving this a spin. Glad you liked it Del. BTW don't you think Peter Dean (Jack Lynn) got wasted being marooned in the Pete Beale role in Eastenders? He was very powerful in the final part A Prisoners Tale and very realistic. Shame the contempary crime drama gerne like this seemed to die a death in the 1980's as sure some of these faces could've been great in a one-off or series drama back then.
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Post by Dirty Epic on Mar 22, 2016 14:37:23 GMT
Some great trawling through the history books and provision of information there Arthur, as per usual. I've still not watched my DVDs yet but sort this shortly. Glad my original post from the most random of searches has lead many people to this series, including myself. Get the DVD's on mate you're in for a treat!
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Mar 23, 2016 20:38:56 GMT
Some trivia from the BFI book- the Old Bailey interiors in episode 3 were filmed on an Old Bailey set that already existed at Ealing Studios. The prison in episode 4 is Kilmainham Gaol, Dublin, also featured in 'The Italian Job' and a handful of other films. Permission to film in a UK prison was denied by the Home Office & even a firm that supplied prison furniture were told that their government contract would be terminated if they supplied furniture to the production.
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Post by Del Boy on Mar 24, 2016 7:46:55 GMT
Juicy stuff Arthur. The production certainly ruffled a few feathers.
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