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Post by Brown Cortina on Oct 9, 2020 15:32:27 GMT
I've always liked this film. Had it for around 18 years now on DVD and I recently watched it. Like many have said here I also like to watch it Regularly and when I watched it the other day I noticed that in the scene where Jack and Kent go to investigate the warehouse and Jack says "meanwhile he fell out of a window" . Just after he says to Kent "Get a Torch". I don't know if it's been dubbed but he sounds very much like a Londoner. Anyone else noticed that ? I wound it back several times to listen to it. I never noticed it before.
I prefer this pilot to the other two feature films and I think the acting is superb especially the part in the car where Jack is driving and George says "ooh dear look at the sate of her" the whole scene is just brilliant from the two of them. Some great lines throughout and the soundtrack is great too.
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Post by Sparky on Oct 9, 2020 16:04:37 GMT
I've always liked this film. Had it for around 18 years now on DVD and I recently watched it. Like many have said here I also like to watch it Regularly and when I watched it the other day I noticed that in the scene where Jack and Kent go to investigate the warehouse and Jack says "meanwhile he fell out of a window" . Just after he says to Kent "Get a Torch". I don't know if it's been dubbed but he sounds very much like a Londoner. Anyone else noticed that ? I wound it back several times to listen to it. I never noticed it before. I prefer this pilot to the other two feature films and I think the acting is superb especially the part in the car where Jack is driving and George says "ooh dear look at the sate of her" the whole scene is just brilliant from the two of them. Some great lines throughout and the soundtrack is great too. I had seen the entire series long before I came across the Pilot. The first time I saw it was on a repeat on UK Gold - of course, they had the scissors to it to ensure that they got more than the specified all ad breaks chucked in.
Not long after I came across it on VHS; loaned it to a friend, and he left it in his Video machine - and was burgled... Quite an irony - Jack & George being "nicked".
As soon as it was released on DVD, I went out and brought it. And kept hold of it! The Pilot is much closer to the TV series than both the feature films. (For me that is).
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Oct 9, 2020 16:15:18 GMT
Had a quick listen to that line on youtube, see what you mean about the way 'torch' sounds, like he's lapsed into a cockney geezer. Thaw's voice doesn't quite have the familiar Regan ring to it yet, he sounds more well spoken & a bit flat, not quite found the character yet, same goes for Dennis.
Not sure how you'd describe Regan's accent, it doesn't sound Mancunian or even Northern to me, but he doesn't sound like a London native either. He must've worked to get rid of his native Manchester accent.
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Post by Soldier on Oct 9, 2020 16:17:04 GMT
I've always liked this film. Had it for around 18 years now on DVD and I recently watched it. Like many have said here I also like to watch it Regularly and when I watched it the other day I noticed that in the scene where Jack and Kent go to investigate the warehouse and Jack says "meanwhile he fell out of a window" . Just after he says to Kent "Get a Torch". I don't know if it's been dubbed but he sounds very much like a Londoner. Anyone else noticed that ? I wound it back several times to listen to it. I never noticed it before. I prefer this pilot to the other two feature films and I think the acting is superb especially the part in the car where Jack is driving and George says "ooh dear look at the sate of her" the whole scene is just brilliant from the two of them. Some great lines throughout and the soundtrack is great too. BC, know exactly what you mean - I'd noted the London twang on that line. Haven't seen it for a while, but didn't feel like it was dubbed, but odd that he adopted that accent - wonder if the character was going to be played as a Londoner originally?
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Post by Brown Cortina on Oct 9, 2020 17:03:46 GMT
Had a quick listen to that line on youtube, see what you mean about the way 'torch' sounds, like he's lapsed into a cockney geezer. Thaw's voice doesn't quite have the familiar Regan ring to it yet, he sounds more well spoken & a bit flat, not quite found the character yet, same goes for Dennis.
Not sure how you'd describe Regan's accent, it doesn't sound Mancunian or even Northern to me, but he doesn't sound like a London native either. He must've worked to get rid of his native Manchester accent.
Very well put Arthur, Cockney geezer describes it better as you've said. Just something I noticed when I watched it the other day. I've always thought Jack Regan sounded more northern by the way he pronounces some words (The B word for instance) but it's hard to say exactly where his accent is supposed to be from. I knew he (John Thaw) was from Manchester originally. I notice a few times in the series that Carter sounds very well spoken, usually on the two way or speaking to a senior so I guess that's deliberate. I was the same as you Sparky although I hadn't seen the entire series, only odd episodes here and there mainly on one of the old channels, UK gold maybe ?. It was around the same time I got the series box set and the pilot. I agree also that the pilot is much closer to the series. I like the other two features but the use of the F word spoils it a bit for me in Sweeney 2. Don't know why as I don't mind hearing the word but it is out of place in the Sweeney. Soldier, I think you're right it hasn't been dubbed over, he must have just slipped a bit with the accent. There's one or two clips of Jack Regan doing accents in the series that I recall so we know he's quite good at them.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Oct 9, 2020 17:26:22 GMT
It's funny when Dennis briefly lapses into a posh accent, he does it when he's talking to well spoken people, I can think of a scene with Delacroix in 'Latin Lady'. He does it in Minder in 'The Bounty Hunter' when he's talking to a posh family, 14 mins in-
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Post by Vienna on Oct 10, 2020 12:38:42 GMT
I've always liked this film. Had it for around 18 years now on DVD and I recently watched it. Like many have said here I also like to watch it Regularly and when I watched it the other day I noticed that in the scene where Jack and Kent go to investigate the warehouse and Jack says "meanwhile he fell out of a window" . Just after he says to Kent "Get a Torch". I don't know if it's been dubbed but he sounds very much like a Londoner. Anyone else noticed that ? I wound it back several times to listen to it. I never noticed it before. I prefer this pilot to the other two feature films and I think the acting is superb especially the part in the car where Jack is driving and George says "ooh dear look at the sate of her" the whole scene is just brilliant from the two of them. Some great lines throughout and the soundtrack is great too. I had seen the entire series long before I came across the Pilot. The first time I saw it was on a repeat on UK Gold - of course, they had the scissors to it to ensure that they got more than the specified all ad breaks chucked in.
Not long after I came across it on VHS; loaned it to a friend, and he left it in his Video machine - and was burgled... Quite an irony - Jack & George being "nicked".
As soon as it was released on DVD, I went out and brought it. And kept hold of it! The Pilot is much closer to the TV series than both the feature films. (For me that is).
I first saw 'Regan' on a VHS I got from Woolworths in 1987. I didn't realise until then that there had been a pilot episode for The Sweeney back in 1974, even though I had seen most of the series by the mid-80s. Vi
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Post by Sparky on Oct 10, 2020 15:05:31 GMT
Had a quick listen to that line on youtube, see what you mean about the way 'torch' sounds, like he's lapsed into a cockney geezer. Thaw's voice doesn't quite have the familiar Regan ring to it yet, he sounds more well spoken & a bit flat, not quite found the character yet, same goes for Dennis.
Not sure how you'd describe Regan's accent, it doesn't sound Mancunian or even Northern to me, but he doesn't sound like a London native either. He must've worked to get rid of his native Manchester accent.
Very well put Arthur, Cockney geezer describes it better as you've said. Just something I noticed when I watched it the other day. I've always thought Jack Regan sounded more northern by the way he pronounces some words (The B word for instance) but it's hard to say exactly where his accent is supposed to be from. I knew he (John Thaw) was from Manchester originally. I notice a few times in the series that Carter sounds very well spoken, usually on the two way or speaking to a senior so I guess that's deliberate. I was the same as you Sparky although I hadn't seen the entire series, only odd episodes here and there mainly on one of the old channels, UK gold maybe ?. It was around the same time I got the series box set and the pilot. I agree also that the pilot is much closer to the series. I like the other two features but the use of the F word spoils it a bit for me in Sweeney 2. Don't know why as I don't mind hearing the word but it is out of place in the Sweeney. Soldier, I think you're right it hasn't been dubbed over, he must have just slipped a bit with the accent. There's one or two clips of Jack Regan doing accents in the series that I recall so we know he's quite good at them. I first saw odd episodes around 1981 - when ITV repeated them on a Thursday. Mum would be in the bath, and my brother and I would climb out of bed and sneak downstairs to watch it. Certain ITV companies repeated it at various points in the 80s; I caught another set of repeats around 1985/6 - after news at 10.
The next time I saw it was when it was repeated on Channel 5 in the late 90s -and then on Granada Plus.
It wasn't until the DVD box set came out in 2004 that I realized just how much Channel 5 / Granada Plus had cut them down. There were scenes in the DVD sets I had never seen.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Oct 10, 2020 15:20:31 GMT
A few years ago I gave my brother the Regan dvd for Christmas, like most people who know The Sweeney but couldn't name you any episode titles he had no idea that the show began as a play. Similarly he knows the film version of 'Scum' well but hadn't seen the Play For Today on which it's based until recently.
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Post by Brown Cortina on Oct 10, 2020 17:36:15 GMT
Ah, That's it, Granada Plus. Couldn't think of it. I recorded a few episodes off there in around 2002, Contact breaker was one and Money Money Money was another I recall. I must of had the box set in 04.
I knew there was a Sweeney film, I'd seen part of it and remembered Diane Keen being in it. When I got Regan I soon realised that there was more than one film as she was not in it.
I'm glad I discovered the pilot as it is a superb film.
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