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Post by Charles Bronson on May 29, 2021 22:37:37 GMT
Thanks Del. It will definately be recording some of this. I will be looking in tomorrow night.
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Post by Sam Tyler on May 30, 2021 10:07:03 GMT
BBC Four are showing some classic kids tv shows from the 70s on Sunday 30th May. BBC Four Sunday 30th May 2021 7:00pm Blue Peter from 04/11/1974 7:25pm Bagpuss 7:40pm The Clangers 7:50pm Ivor the Engine 8:00pm Timeshift Oliver Postgate: A Life in Small Films 9:00pm-10.00pm From Andy Pandy to Zebedee: The Golden Age of Children's Television Thanks for the info Del, I've set up for all of those to record. I'm confused though, I'm still in 1973 so how can I watch next year's Blue Peter???? Sam.
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Post by Three Litre on May 30, 2021 14:47:08 GMT
BBC Four are showing some classic kids tv shows from the 70s on Sunday 30th May. BBC Four Sunday 30th May 2021 7:00pm Blue Peter from 04/11/1974 7:25pm Bagpuss 7:40pm The Clangers 7:50pm Ivor the Engine 8:00pm Timeshift Oliver Postgate: A Life in Small Films 9:00pm-10.00pm From Andy Pandy to Zebedee: The Golden Age of Children's Television Thanks for the info Del, I've set up for all of those to record. I'm confused though, I'm still in 1973 so how can I watch next year's Blue Peter???? Sam. That's the least of your worries matey, not sure you are actual alive!
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Post by Nightfly on May 31, 2021 6:16:53 GMT
Loved the Oliver Postgate documentary. I had heard the term "cottage industry" associated with Oliver and his colleague Peter Firman before, but hadn't realised how accurate the term was in their case. Their set up really was on a shoestring. I was particularly fascinated by the gadgets Oliver put together to make filming easier, often made with bits of Meccano !
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Post by Three Litre on May 31, 2021 7:48:57 GMT
Loved the Oliver Postgate documentary. I had heard the term "cottage industry" associated with Oliver and his colleague Peter Firman before, but hadn't realised how accurate the term was in their case. Their set up really was on a shoestring. I was particularly fascinated by the gadgets Oliver put together to make filming easier, often made with bits of Meccano ! Exactly, even more impressive. I still have my Meccano.
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Post by Sparky on May 31, 2021 9:32:26 GMT
Loved the Oliver Postgate documentary. I had heard the term "cottage industry" associated with Oliver and his colleague Peter Firman before, but hadn't realised how accurate the term was in their case. Their set up really was on a shoestring. I was particularly fascinated by the gadgets Oliver put together to make filming easier, often made with bits of Meccano ! Going to watch the documentary shortly.
They used a converted Pig Sty and a cheap as chips 16mm camera.
What's frightening is that decent mobiles phones and various computer packages kids are knocking up Lego films and Youtube videos is much more sophisticated than what Postgate and Firmin were using.
For me, the magic in Smallfilms stuff is that it was all handmade, and done on a piggy bank budget.
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Post by Nightfly on May 31, 2021 10:32:32 GMT
Loved the Oliver Postgate documentary. I had heard the term "cottage industry" associated with Oliver and his colleague Peter Firman before, but hadn't realised how accurate the term was in their case. Their set up really was on a shoestring. I was particularly fascinated by the gadgets Oliver put together to make filming easier, often made with bits of Meccano ! Going to watch the documentary shortly.
They used a converted Pig Sty and a cheap as chips 16mm camera. You'll love it. In the late 70s I used to get "Movie Maker" magazine aimed at amateur filmmakers and used to see the 8mm version of the Bolex camera Oliver used advertised regularly. I might be wrong, but the one he was using looked like a spring wound mechanism drive as opposed to battery powered. Thinking back to Vision On, they must have had a network of similar garden shed animators working for them as I'm sure a lot of those wouldn't have been made in house.
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Post by Three Litre on May 31, 2021 10:49:29 GMT
Going to watch the documentary shortly.
They used a converted Pig Sty and a cheap as chips 16mm camera. You'll love it. In the late 70s I used to get "Movie Maker" magazine aimed at amateur filmmakers and used to see the 8mm version of the Bolex camera Oliver used advertised regularly. I might be wrong, but the one he was using looked like a spring wound mechanism drive as opposed to battery powered. Thinking back to Vision On, they must have had a network of similar garden shed animators working for them as I'm sure a lot of those wouldn't have been made in house. My dad had a clockwork 8mm camera, you had to go into a semi-dark room and change the film over half way through, they then spliced it in half after developing to make one continuous film.
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Post by Nightfly on May 31, 2021 11:08:30 GMT
You'll love it. In the late 70s I used to get "Movie Maker" magazine aimed at amateur filmmakers and used to see the 8mm version of the Bolex camera Oliver used advertised regularly. I might be wrong, but the one he was using looked like a spring wound mechanism drive as opposed to battery powered. Thinking back to Vision On, they must have had a network of similar garden shed animators working for them as I'm sure a lot of those wouldn't have been made in house. My dad had a clockwork 8mm camera, you had to go into a semi-dark room and change the film over half way through, they then spliced it in half after developing to make one continuous film. I had the same thing for a while in 1980. A Russian Quarz camera second hand from the local camera shop for about £15. You got about 35 seconds of footage per wind, but if you were using it for single frame animation, 35 seconds was a long time. The chap at the shop threw in a little film splitter in case I ever wanted to develop my own film (which I wouldn't have had a clue about). It used Standard 8mm film which I believe is even harder to get these days than Super 8.
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Post by Three Litre on May 31, 2021 11:20:45 GMT
My dad had a clockwork 8mm camera, you had to go into a semi-dark room and change the film over half way through, they then spliced it in half after developing to make one continuous film. I had the same thing for a while in 1980. A Russian Quarz camera second hand from the local camera shop for about £15. You got about 35 seconds of footage per wind, but if you were using it for single frame animation, 35 seconds was a long time. The chap at the shop threw in a little film splitter in case I ever wanted to develop my own film (which I wouldn't have had a clue about). It used Standard 8mm film which I believe is even harder to get these days than Super 8. Never tried movie film developing but did 35 mm and large format stuff, including colour which is challenging as you have to work in total darkness. With black and white you can have a red light on. It was amazing seeing these pictures appear in front of your eyes.
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