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Post by DI Alex Drake on Sept 1, 2020 21:32:57 GMT
I completely agree; does the mindset make cycling appealing or does the cycling bring about the mindset, I wonder?!
I cannot abide people being rude and acting superior. My Uncle has done quite well for himself. My mum is very much the poor relation. They come down to our part of the world once a year and sometimes take my parents out for a meal. I went with them about 5 years ago because it happened to coincide with my day off and we ate at their (ludicrously expensive) hotel. I always feel really out of place in anywhere like that because I grew up in a household painfully close to the breadline, ate at a restaurant once a year (paid for by dad's boss) etc and I just always feel out of my depth. Anyway. My Uncle was so obscenely rude to the waiters and waitresses, my parents and I were just looking at the floor. Had that happened now, and not five years ago (having found my voice, so to speak!) there's no way I wouldn't have said something to him. There's absolutely no excuse for it. I don't care how much money you have, it doesn't give you the right to speak to anybody like that.
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Sept 1, 2020 21:49:44 GMT
I expect things are different in more cycle friendly parts of the World. Not defending idiot pavement riders with no lights or bolshy mamils, but in years gone by when the roads were far emptier wasn't cycling fairly commonplace in many UK towns? I'm thinking of old films where you see dozens of men cycling to work, that way of life has all but disappeared.
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Post by Sam Tyler on Sept 1, 2020 21:59:16 GMT
I completely agree; does the mindset make cycling appealing or does the cycling bring about the mindset, I wonder?! I cannot abide people being rude and acting superior. My Uncle has done quite well for himself. My mum is very much the poor relation. They come down to our part of the world once a year and sometimes take my parents out for a meal. I went with them about 5 years ago because it happened to coincide with my day off and we ate at their (ludicrously expensive) hotel. I always feel really out of place in anywhere like that because I grew up in a household painfully close to the breadline, ate at a restaurant once a year (paid for by dad's boss) etc and I just always feel out of my depth. Anyway. My Uncle was so obscenely rude to the waiters and waitresses, my parents and I were just looking at the floor. Had that happened now, and not five years ago (having found my voice, so to speak!) there's no way I wouldn't have said something to him. There's absolutely no excuse for it. I don't care how much money you have, it doesn't give you the right to speak to anybody like that. Sadly those are the type of people that don't understand how reliant they are on all those below them. Yes they've probably been the ones that have taken the financial risk but they've never really got their hands dirty in the process. I'm firmly of the opinion that you should be a good person to everyone you meet on the way up because you could well be meeting them again if you're on your way back down. Fortunes can rise and fall so it doesn't pay to be objectionable. I've had peaks and troughs with work, currently out of work so it is a trough, but I've had times where I've had people working for me and I've never made them do work that I haven't already undertaken or wouldn't undertake to do myself. Sam.
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Post by Sam Tyler on Sept 1, 2020 22:06:24 GMT
I expect things are different in more cycle friendly parts of the World. Not defending idiot pavement riders with no lights or bolshy mamils, but in years gone by when the roads were far emptier wasn't cycling fairly commonplace in many UK towns? I'm thinking of old films where you see dozens of men cycling to work, that way of life has all but disappeared.
You're correct Arthur, even in the late 70's there were still a steady number of people cycling to work. When I was doing my paper round I'd see blokes on their way to a large nearby factory all cycling by, many would prop their bikes up using the pedal along the kerb while they went into the paper shop for their daily rag. Get to the early 80's and they were virtually all gone because the factory had closed down and they had to use a car to travel further afield for work. Sam.
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Post by Steve Austin on Sept 1, 2020 22:23:43 GMT
many would prop their bikes up using the pedal along the kerb while they went into the paper shop Sam. That is a skill right there, always felt great when you did that first time
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Post by Arthur Pringle on Sept 1, 2020 22:48:50 GMT
I completely agree; does the mindset make cycling appealing or does the cycling bring about the mindset, I wonder?! I cannot abide people being rude and acting superior. My Uncle has done quite well for himself. My mum is very much the poor relation. They come down to our part of the world once a year and sometimes take my parents out for a meal. I went with them about 5 years ago because it happened to coincide with my day off and we ate at their (ludicrously expensive) hotel. I always feel really out of place in anywhere like that because I grew up in a household painfully close to the breadline, ate at a restaurant once a year (paid for by dad's boss) etc and I just always feel out of my depth. Anyway. My Uncle was so obscenely rude to the waiters and waitresses, my parents and I were just looking at the floor. Had that happened now, and not five years ago (having found my voice, so to speak!) there's no way I wouldn't have said something to him. There's absolutely no excuse for it. I don't care how much money you have, it doesn't give you the right to speak to anybody like that. Is your uncle this man?
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Post by Three Litre on Sept 2, 2020 18:53:51 GMT
I expect things are different in more cycle friendly parts of the World. Not defending idiot pavement riders with no lights or bolshy mamils, but in years gone by when the roads were far emptier wasn't cycling fairly commonplace in many UK towns? I'm thinking of old films where you see dozens of men cycling to work, that way of life has all but disappeared.
I was in Germany a couple of years ago and it was noticeable that there were hardly any cyclists without lights as darkness set in. On the general theme of cyclists and cycling, people just to need to have bit of respect on both sides. I do some cycling and you always get some sod who drives by so close and fast he risks my life, the roads aren't there for just the fastest vehicles. I drive up and down the M11 to work and its usually the twats in the high powered cars driving dangerously close to slow moving cars that cause most of problems. Every day one of them belts up the inside trying to cut just to cut ahead at risk of accident and injury to others. On the general theme of going to Germany, I had an uncle who went to Dresden once. He didn't stop mind.
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Post by Sam Tyler on Sept 2, 2020 19:33:15 GMT
On the general theme of going to Germany, I had an uncle who went to Dresden once. He didn't stop mind. Just a flying visit was it? Sam.
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Post by Three Litre on Sept 2, 2020 19:41:50 GMT
On the general theme of going to Germany, I had an uncle who went to Dresden once. He didn't stop mind. Just a flying visit was it? Sam. Yeah, courtesy of Avro.
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Post by Vienna on Sept 3, 2020 11:00:25 GMT
I expect things are different in more cycle friendly parts of the World. Not defending idiot pavement riders with no lights or bolshy mamils, but in years gone by when the roads were far emptier wasn't cycling fairly commonplace in many UK towns? I'm thinking of old films where you see dozens of men cycling to work, that way of life has all but disappeared.
I was in Germany a couple of years ago and it was noticeable that there were hardly any cyclists without lights as darkness set in. On the general theme of cyclists and cycling, people just to need to have bit of respect on both sides. I do some cycling and you always get some sod who drives by so close and fast he risks my life, the roads aren't there for just the fastest vehicles. I drive up and down the M11 to work and its usually the twats in the high powered cars driving dangerously close to slow moving cars that cause most of problems. Every day one of them belts up the inside trying to cut just to cut ahead at risk of accident and injury to others. On the general theme of going to Germany, I had an uncle who went to Dresden once. He didn't stop mind. I nearly got run over by a cyclist walking home last night. He was riding on the pavement in the dark with no lights and didn't seem to care that I couldn't see him. I'm sure most cyclists are more kind and considerate to pedestrians than he was Vi
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