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Post by Villain on Feb 2, 2016 20:12:40 GMT
Enjoyed the 4x4 one too, JM has a knack of making his subject interesting without too much 'Top Gear' style cocking about. I noticed some choice musical cuts IN the background here and there, a bit of 'Bladerunner' (Vangelis) and even a brief snatch of the soundtrack from 'Performance' . Villain
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Post by Del Boy on Feb 2, 2016 22:35:07 GMT
Good show again. Interesting to chart the 4X4 world from the Willys Jeep.
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Post by D.C. Burtonshaw on Feb 8, 2016 22:13:08 GMT
One small thing though, although he was right to include the Audi (Fire up the) Quattro, as one of the landmark 4x4 cars, it was the Jensen FF that pioneered that type of car, the fast road cruiser with 4 wheel drive which helped the handling, would have been nice if that car got a mention.
Enjoyed last nights programme though.
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Post by Villain on Feb 9, 2016 19:59:15 GMT
One small thing though, although he was right to include the Audi (Fire up the) Quattro, as one of the landmark 4x4 cars, it was the Jensen FF that pioneered that type of car, the fast road cruiser with 4 wheel drive which helped the handling, would have been nice if that car got a mention. Enjoyed last nights programme though. I had the same thought DCB, with James having done the cult TV spoof 'The Interceptors' on Top Gear you'd think the FF would have got a mention. I don't have the book to hand right now but I think only about 300 or so (possibly even less) Jensen FFs were built, partly because they were even more expensive when new than the standard Interceptor was. Every period review and report on the FF I've read says they were very highly thought of at the time, it's a pity they didn't build more. Villain
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Post by Three Litre on Sept 21, 2019 16:43:02 GMT
This is on BBC2 at the moment.
Quite interesting, particularly about the mistake with the Morris Minor.
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Post by Three Litre on Sept 21, 2019 18:13:21 GMT
Watched the first episode in full.
Fully agree with his assessment that Britain performed very poorly compared with the losers in WW2.
Frankly, it was disastrous, we lost the peace and the Germans and Japanese won it.
The fault lies with both unions and owners/management, politicians and a general lack of all wanting to move in the same direction, teamwork for want of a better word.
Sure, we have the number five position in terms of size of the economy but we could have done so much better.
A lot of the products made in the 60s and 70s were pants in terms of reliability and performance. Thank God those people were making Spitfires, Hurricanes etc.
I know in reality military hardware was made in various car companies but there sons/daughters and the companies later on were not up to it!
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Post by Cartman on Sept 21, 2019 20:28:18 GMT
I think that part of Britain's problem was that we seemed to cling on to the delusion that we were still a major world power after 1945 and tried to keep up with the two superpowers of the USA and USSR with defence spending and weapons development and military aircraft projects, several of which were cancelled after spending a lot of money on their development.
West Germany and Japan backed right away from military spending after the war, which probably helped their economies. Also, both were seen as defences against encroachment by the Russians in the cold war period so received aid from the Americans under the Marshall plan.
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Post by Three Litre on Sept 21, 2019 20:48:13 GMT
I think that part of Britain's problem was that we seemed to cling on to the delusion that we were still a major world power after 1945 and tried to keep up with the two superpowers of the USA and USSR with defence spending and weapons development and military aircraft projects, several of which were cancelled after spending a lot of money on their development. West Germany and Japan backed right away from military spending after the war, which probably helped their economies. Also, both were seen as defences against encroachment by the Russians in the cold war period so received aid from the Americans under the Marshall plan. Yes, Churchill realised the centre of power was shifting to the US. We actually got more money from the Marshall Plan than the Germans, don't think Japan got any. I think West Germany must have spent money on the military once they were allowed, they rearmed after 1950 and joined NATO. There was a sizable standing army and tank capability to deter the Russians. As for the aircraft projects, yes there were a few failures there, TSR2, P1154 for two. Even the successfully ones never got the worldwide sales the US and even the French got with their designs, bar a couple. I'm a firm believer in military collaboration to protect us all, no one country can do it all, even the US would struggle in some scenarios.
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