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Post by Sparky on Mar 5, 2022 8:47:09 GMT
I've still got my faithful clockwork 8mm Camera I've had since 1979 (and it was old even then) Russian made Quarz std 8mm by any chance ? Solid built things you wouldn't want to drop on your toe. The camera would survive, but not so sure about the toe. I still have a few of the old 8mm films which came with the cheap projector I got when I was about 12. The usual silent 3 minute Charlie Chaplin reels and, for some strange reason, Trooping The Colour. It's a 1950s Canon Reflex camera; clockwork and is Standard 8mm. The negative comes as 50ft of 16mm reversal film, you expose one side of the negative, then flip it round to expose the other side. The labs slice the film down the centre and join to the two together to make a 100ft roll of 8mm. It has a large light meter on the top too It's quite heavy for its size.And very solid. But when in it's case, the pistol grip sticks out of the top and it looks like you are carrying a gun around.
The Super 8mm one is a little more eleborate, lighter weight - and includes an input for recording magnetic soundtrack. With this you can use asupper 8mm cartridges - they just insert, in daylight.
With the clockwork camera, you had to thread the negative in darkness. We used to put an anorak over the camera and use the sleeves as ports to thread it up!
Those Russian Quartx cameras were rugged. You could buy all manor of accessories and bits to go with them - various lense filters, hoods etc.
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Post by Villain on Mar 5, 2022 13:15:00 GMT
Reminded me of another couple of books, I've got the observers book of railway locomotives from 1963, and an Ian Allan ABC from I think 1968. I've still got most of my old Ian Allen locoshed books from 1970 onwards and various other railway books I bought in the early '70s with pocket money. Alas pretty much all of my Gerry Anderson toys from Thunderbirds, Captain Scarlet, Joe 90 and UFO were handed down to my younger brother who promptly gave some away or buried the rest in the back garden of our old house! I've still not forgiven him  Villain  |
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Post by Cartman on Mar 5, 2022 14:03:25 GMT
I've got one or two of the Ian Allen books, 1968, 1971 and 1983.
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Post by Sparky on Mar 5, 2022 15:16:31 GMT
Reminded me of another couple of books, I've got the observers book of railway locomotives from 1963, and an Ian Allan ABC from I think 1968. I've still got most of my old Ian Allen locoshed books from 1970 onwards and various other railway books I bought in the early '70s with pocket money. Alas pretty much all of my Gerry Anderson toys from Thunderbirds, Captain Scarlet, Joe 90 and UFO were handed down to my younger brother who promptly gave some away or buried the rest in the back garden of our old house! I've still not forgiven him  Villain  I still have quite a few annuals. Sadly, a couple are in poor condition. Or some Oik has drawn in them.
I dropped in at a Toy & Train fair at Doncaster Dome a little while back; there was a stall that specialised in Books and Annuals -aparently he travels round all the toy fairs in the country.
He had an LWT official "Professionals" annual; with all the behind the scenes stuff in - and wanted about £50 for it. All of his annuals are sealed in clear bags - which is fine, though you can't inspect them yourself.
He did have a complete set of Sweeney annuals - and so I ventured off to an ATM to get some cash. Came back to find he'd sold them.
I was p*ssed off as the ATM also charged me £2 to take my money out - it was the only one close by.
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Post by Nightfly on Mar 5, 2022 15:29:37 GMT
Russian made Quarz std 8mm by any chance ? Solid built things you wouldn't want to drop on your toe. The camera would survive, but not so sure about the toe. Those Russian Quartx cameras were rugged. You could buy all manor of accessories and bits to go with them - various lense filters, hoods etc. Yes - mine had an original leather case with all kinds of filters and accessories stuffed into the compartments. There was even a little winding handle you could plug in to enable you to wind the film back a few frames to do mix/dissolves/superimposing titles, although the results were a bit crude. As for those Ian Allen books. I remember having a few of those during a train spotting phase I went through when I was around 10/11. A mate at the time would brag about how many locos he had spotted and underlined in his books compared to mine. Then I had a family holiday in Edinburgh in a hotel that overlooked the railway goods yard and returned home with a whole new load of new spots ! (Although I still have an interest in rail, I'm grateful my spotting phase didn't progress beyond the age of 11).  |
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Post by Sparky on Mar 5, 2022 17:04:20 GMT
Those Russian Quartx cameras were rugged. You could buy all manor of accessories and bits to go with them - various lense filters, hoods etc. Yes - mine had an original leather case with all kinds of filters and accessories stuffed into the compartments. There was even a little winding handle you could plug in to enable you to wind the film back a few frames to do mix/dissolves/superimposing titles, although the results were a bit crude. As for those Ian Allen books. I remember having a few of those during a train spotting phase I went through when I was around 10/11. A mate at the time would brag about how many locos he had spotted and underlined in his books compared to mine. Then I had a family holiday in Edinburgh in a hotel that overlooked the railway goods yard and returned home with a whole new load of new spots ! (Although I still have an interest in rail, I'm grateful my spotting phase didn't progress beyond the age of 11).  Yeah - the more deluxe cameras had a rewind facility and a footage counter - so as you say, you could wind the film back and do superimposed/double exposed shots, dissolves and fades.
Never saw none of that on the Standard 8mm stuff. Only Super 8.
The Super 8 camera I have has a rewind, also it has a Fade in / Fade out button to.
With that camera we managed to do superimposed captions - which we made up on sheets of mouting card (borrowed from the bin at school) using white Letraset - which we weren't good at, so had wonky captions. Pretty much the same way as they woud have done them at the Labs.
Going to have to raid my mothers loft, as she has a load of the films we made up there. There were some from a Vintage Car Rally we went to in 1985, another from a Works Open Day at British Rail Tech Centre in Derby. Would love to digitise them.
My Brother was big on the crossing off in his Ian Allen Books. He had a strict system too!
On a trip to York around 1980; our train (a Class 45 non the less) stopped at Doncaster for about 15minutes - and he literally filled his notebook with stock in the various sidings and works yard. I think they were just building the large signal box that's still there.
The rest of the trip to York was spent getting them all crossed off!
Also - still got my original Rail Riders membership card too!
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Post by Three Litre on Mar 5, 2022 19:08:02 GMT
I still have a Corgi Batmobile and Corgi Spectrum SPV and heaps of O gauge Hornby rail stuff.
Wish I still had my full size Corgi nuclear shelter, might prove useful ...............
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Post by Cartman on Mar 5, 2022 19:11:40 GMT
My number collecting seemed to fade away after steam finished, I crossed off Burys (26D) allocation of WDs, LMS class 2s and class 4 tanks then all of the Manchester to Bury electric units, then stopped!
I then moved onto Bury corporations buses, all 96 of them, that didn't take long.
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Post by Sparky on Mar 5, 2022 19:21:58 GMT
I still have a Corgi Batmobile and Corgi Spectrum SPV and heaps of O gauge Hornby rail stuff. Wish I still had my full size Corgi nuclear shelter, might prove useful ............... Corgi did a Nuclear Shelter?! |
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Post by Three Litre on Mar 5, 2022 19:33:21 GMT
I still have a Corgi Batmobile and Corgi Spectrum SPV and heaps of O gauge Hornby rail stuff. Wish I still had my full size Corgi nuclear shelter, might prove useful ............... Corgi did a Nuclear Shelter?! Could have been Dinky! |
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