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Post by Lord Emsworth on Nov 13, 2019 20:09:29 GMT
That's great intel Sparky - thanks
I listened to a great radio documentary on Operation Countryman on BBC Sounds the other month. The levels of corruption in the Met at that time were staggering - or at least that was the impression I had from listening to this doc.
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Post by Three Litre on Nov 13, 2019 21:24:43 GMT
That's great intel Sparky - thanks
I listened to a great radio documentary on Operation Countryman on BBC Sounds the other month. The levels of corruption in the Met at that time were staggering - or at least that was the impression I had from listening to this doc.
A good deal of the real squad was bent, corrupted by the porn kings, not helped because their wages were low. The Thatcher government increased them very early on to counter this although unfortunately not many were prosecuted under Countryman. Large numbers resigned instead. A very bad time for the Met. The effects lasted for years.
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Post by B16YUG on Nov 14, 2019 8:28:03 GMT
Does anyone know where the wood panelled boozer was or is? - This way well already be in the location / then and now areas of the forum, but I'm not of sufficient privilege yet.
Using the hand held video camera in 1975 policing must have been quite technologically leading edge.
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Post by Sparky on Nov 14, 2019 9:04:58 GMT
Does anyone know where the wood panelled boozer was or is? - This way well already be in the location / then and now areas of the forum, but I'm not of sufficient privilege yet. Using the hand held video camera in 1975 policing must have been quite technologically leading edge. Sorry to be geeky! I wasn't a handheld Video Camera - it was a handheld clockwork 16mm camera.
The pub, I assumed was the Red Cow - though; is it not covered in Genes extensive Location investigation?
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Post by Gene Hunt on Nov 14, 2019 9:09:08 GMT
Does anyone know where the wood panelled boozer was or is? - This way well already be in the location / then and now areas of the forum, but I'm not of sufficient privilege yet. Using the hand held video camera in 1975 policing must have been quite technologically leading edge. Sorry to be geeky! It wasn't a handheld Video Camera - it was a handheld clockwork 16mm camera.
The pub, I assumed was the Red Cow - though; is it not covered in Genes extensive Location investigation?
The short answer is no. It's a location that I moved past when compiling the Jigsaw thread in order to get it finished. I will be going back through that and other threads to fill in the odd gap when I've completed Sweeney 2 - which I am working through right now. Gene.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Nov 14, 2019 11:17:15 GMT
I'd be interested to know what that pub was too. I hope you're successful Gene when you manage to get back to it.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Nov 14, 2019 11:20:35 GMT
Like many episodes of The Sweeney, Ringer shows just how much corrugated iron there was round London in the 70s, presumably blocking off waste ground which was a result of the Blitz bombing of WW2
I vividly remember seeing it all over North London when I was growing up, especially round Finsbury Park and Archway.
What I can't remember is when it disappeared. Presumably the process was happening throughout the 1980s. But why? Was it increased confidence in building around the time the economy started to boom 80s. Was it linked to other redevelopments like Docklands?
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Post by Three Litre on Nov 14, 2019 12:12:26 GMT
Does anyone know where the wood panelled boozer was or is? - This way well already be in the location / then and now areas of the forum, but I'm not of sufficient privilege yet. Using the hand held video camera in 1975 policing must have been quite technologically leading edge. Sorry to be geeky! I wasn't a handheld Video Camera - it was a handheld clockwork 16mm camera.
The pub, I assumed was the Red Cow - though; is it not covered in Genes extensive Location investigation?
My Dad has still got his clockwork 8 mm movie camera. You put the film in, in semi darkness, ran it through, took it out and turned it over and ran it through again. Then when processed it they split it and sent you a complete film!
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Nov 14, 2019 14:33:00 GMT
My Dad had a cine camera when I was a kid in the 70s. 8 mm film which lasted for about 5 minutes. Every few months we'd watch the old holiday films.
The film the squad are using is definitely not 8 mm though. Probably supposed to be 16 or 32 mm which would mean a pretty bulky camera - which is probably why we never actually saw the person doing the fliming, and all the producers did was use their standard film but make it look jerky and handheld.
Still a fun plot device in the context of the episode and, as has been commented, the laddish remarks as the squad watch the film were quite amusing and also demonstrate what a novelty it was back then to see yourself in a film.
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Post by Sparky on Nov 14, 2019 14:53:12 GMT
Sorry to be geeky! I wasn't a handheld Video Camera - it was a handheld clockwork 16mm camera.
The pub, I assumed was the Red Cow - though; is it not covered in Genes extensive Location investigation?
My Dad has still got his clockwork 8 mm movie camera. You put the film in, in semi darkness, ran it through, took it out and turned it over and ran it through again. Then when processed it they split it and sent you a complete film! That's what they called Reversal Film Stock. It was a Super 16mm negative, you'd film down one side, reverse it, and expose the other side. At the lab they would split it two to 100ft lengths, and join them together to make a 200ft positive roll and send it back to you.
That was usually Standard 8mm. Super 8mm came in 200ft cartridges which you could load in daylight. It had a larger frame area and also could feature delights as a Magnetic soundtrack.
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