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Post by Dirty Epic on Sept 4, 2019 11:30:30 GMT
Sparky, was that Capital One ad isn't the one where they make out their office staff (Super-****'s) are like superheroes for their customers, clients etc. etc. think I saw that one on a Thames Clipper boat a couple of years back and a right load of corporate pony if that's the one.
Doesn't surprise me Sam/Sparky about the ways in which these 'conference rooms' are expensively kitted out and rarely used - such a waste when things which are necessities are cut to the bone these days! As for Carlton junking those facilities at Nottingham couldn't agree more Sparky in fact reckon it cost them more to 'guard' the chucked out cable than what it would have done providing that equipment to the local community. Considering how much of a success that 'new' Crossroads was...
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Post by Sparky on Sept 5, 2019 9:40:47 GMT
Sparky, was that Capital One ad isn't the one where they make out their office staff (Super-****'s) are like superheroes for their customers, clients etc. etc. think I saw that one on a Thames Clipper boat a couple of years back and a right load of corporate pony if that's the one.
Doesn't surprise me Sam/Sparky about the ways in which these 'conference rooms' are expensively kitted out and rarely used - such a waste when things which are necessities are cut to the bone these days! As for Carlton junking those facilities at Nottingham couldn't agree more Sparky in fact reckon it cost them more to 'guard' the chucked out cable than what it would have done providing that equipment to the local community. Considering how much of a success that 'new' Crossroads was... I think it was. Though no one was dressed as Superheroes. It was all tracking shots/steadycam type stuff through offices. So we shot the live action stuff and they added everything else in Post Production. Normally the case the adverts...
The last batch of Car People adverts I worked on a year or two ago were shot at a Car People place in Sheffield (while it was open to the public non the less) - and we shot all of the live action material (tracking shots/crane shots of cars and all that) - the final advert didn't bear any resemblance to what we had shot thanks to the amount of Post Prod/CGI work they did after. (Must have cost a fortune).
Though - with the reliance of Tech Thread; for some reason, they had begun work on the CGI work BEFORE we had shot the live stuff - so every single shot took an hour or more to set up, as angles, measurements and light had to be matched - and of course - we had three days of bright sunshine....we couldn't rely on any Tech, we had to work to a printed out storyboard, using tape measures and tape to mark up positions and use large frames to block out sections of the sun, which of course moves across the sky a few degrees every hour, so once you have set up your shot in that hour, you find you are adjusting stuff again.
I have the story boards, so will scan them in and post them on a seperate thread for those who may be interested!
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Post by DI Alex Drake on Sept 14, 2019 20:50:42 GMT
Considerably more than I would like. I mean, I wouldn't be here if I didn't feel I'd be happier in the past so ... I don't suppose anyone on this forum particularly likes 21st century! But as others have said it's crazy how much you do become dependent on it even without noticing. I will consciously put the phone down but moments later I'll need it - put the phone down and then need to know the weather forecast, put the phone down and need to ask my mum something (don't have a landline!), put the phone down and want to know when the next train is. And every time I do this I inwardly sigh because that's it, they've done it, we are completely bloody reliant on them. We don't have cameras because we have phones, we don't have maps because we have phones/sat navs, we don't have landlines (well, it might be my generation downwards that have this but I know a lot of people without them) because we all have a phone! And whilst it winds me up, it's just too convenient as someone said. I don't see any way back from it. Unless of course something happens to our electricity production capabilities ...
In our jobs as well - I spend 95% of my working day on a computer. I used to work in retail and when the internet or power went down we couldn't take payments! We couldn't sell anything and had to close, couldn't order anything, couldn't do price changes ... literally other than physically putting stock on shelves, there was nothing left we could do. I now work in an estate agent and my job is to get the houses on the internet. I'm told 20 years ago that the job would have been mostly photocopying, envelope filling etc because they would literally create the window cards with photographs pasted to card and they'd be photocopied and posted to clients. Now 80% plus of business comes in from online. It may be more than that. So again, when we lose internet, I can physically do almost none of my job.
Part of me would love to try and go without a phone for as long as possible ...
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Post by Sparky on Sept 17, 2019 18:22:22 GMT
Continuing the Tech thread....
About 3 years ago, I purchased a reasonably expensive scanner - complete with attachment for Negatives & Slides - and a reputable brand. All worked well.
Recently, I was forced to upgrade my computer; and so I dug out the scanner - and tried to install it.
After 3 hours of Swearing and Cursing - it still isn't installed - and according to the "online support" of the manufacturer - it is now classed as "Legacy" (Nice word for old), and therefore, no longer supported and will not function with my version of Windows...
So - a Scanner that's 3 years old, is now regarded as OLD? That makes my 10 year old DVD player an Antique in that case
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Post by DI Alex Drake on Sept 17, 2019 21:29:18 GMT
It’s ridiculous isn’t it? Especially something like a printer or scanner.
I bought my other half an iPad the first Christmas we were together (a lot of saving involved for a student with a part time job!). 2012. Said iPad is now 7 years old and completely and utterly outdated. No one expects it to be anything other than slow and ... well, crap! Now you think about it though, if you bought anything other than maybe shoes or whatever 20 years ago; especially something you’d spent £350 on - you’d really expect it to last a lot longer than 7 years wouldn’t you. To be honest it was sluggish after 3-4 years. It’s crazy isn’t it?
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Post by Three Litre on Sept 17, 2019 22:09:36 GMT
It’s ridiculous isn’t it? Especially something like a printer or scanner. I bought my other half an iPad the first Christmas we were together (a lot of saving involved for a student with a part time job!). 2012. Said iPad is now 7 years old and completely and utterly outdated. No one expects it to be anything other than slow and ... well, crap! Now you think about it though, if you bought anything other than maybe shoes or whatever 20 years ago; especially something you’d spent £350 on - you’d really expect it to last a lot longer than 7 years wouldn’t you. To be honest it was sluggish after 3-4 years. It’s crazy isn’t it? In a way it’s not that the products are crap it’s that the world around everything is getting faster. So there’s more data to be downloaded than years ago for even simple requests. I was outdated years ago and trying to peddle faster.
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Post by Dirty Epic on Sept 18, 2019 7:15:10 GMT
It’s ridiculous isn’t it? Especially something like a printer or scanner. I bought my other half an iPad the first Christmas we were together (a lot of saving involved for a student with a part time job!). 2012. Said iPad is now 7 years old and completely and utterly outdated. No one expects it to be anything other than slow and ... well, crap! Now you think about it though, if you bought anything other than maybe shoes or whatever 20 years ago; especially something you’d spent £350 on - you’d really expect it to last a lot longer than 7 years wouldn’t you. To be honest it was sluggish after 3-4 years. It’s crazy isn’t it? Isn't there a bit of an urban legend with apple iPhone/iPad's that when you do the software update it loads software which eventually slows the device down/makes it obsolete. Wouldn't surprise me.
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Post by Sparky on Sept 18, 2019 8:39:23 GMT
It’s ridiculous isn’t it? Especially something like a printer or scanner. I bought my other half an iPad the first Christmas we were together (a lot of saving involved for a student with a part time job!). 2012. Said iPad is now 7 years old and completely and utterly outdated. No one expects it to be anything other than slow and ... well, crap! Now you think about it though, if you bought anything other than maybe shoes or whatever 20 years ago; especially something you’d spent £350 on - you’d really expect it to last a lot longer than 7 years wouldn’t you. To be honest it was sluggish after 3-4 years. It’s crazy isn’t it? Isn't there a bit of an urban legend with apple iPhone/iPad's that when you do the software update it loads software which eventually slows the device down/makes it obsolete. Wouldn't surprise me. I'm not a computer expert, though most updates will be programmed using the latest software and hardware. So when it's uploaded/installed on your older device, chances are it will run slower, or create issues elsewhere.
In one hand, we are being told to recycle and cut down on waste. In the other hand, we have Tec companies telling us to just "chuck our devices away" after 2 or 3 years as they are obsolete. While at the tip last week, I noticed the container with the TVs/DVD Players/PCs and electrical items was just about full of stuff possibly no older than about 4 or 5 years.
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Post by Cartman on Sept 18, 2019 11:02:16 GMT
That, Sparky, pretty much sums up the hypocrisy which surrounds this green stuff. We are told to cut down on waste, yet manufacturers encourage waste by making products which become obsolete.
My gran had a gas cooker which she would have got at about the time of the first World War, and it was still working perfectly when we cleared the house out when she died in 1979. Some second hand dealer bought it, so for all I know, it might still be working now. If cookers were made to last 100 years, no one would buy new ones, so the consumer economy gets derailed, so manufacturers don't make stuff to last any more.
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Post by Sparky on Sept 18, 2019 11:44:52 GMT
That, Sparky, pretty much sums up the hypocrisy which surrounds this green stuff. We are told to cut down on waste, yet manufacturers encourage waste by making products which become obsolete. My gran had a gas cooker which she would have got at about the time of the first World War, and it was still working perfectly when we cleared the house out when she died in 1979. Some second hand dealer bought it, so for all I know, it might still be working now. If cookers were made to last 100 years, no one would buy new ones, so the consumer economy gets derailed, so manufacturers don't make stuff to last any more. When I started my apprenticeship at a Rep Theatre nearly 30 years ago, a salesman from a Bulb manufacturer came to see the Chief Electrician about where we get our domestic light bulbs / florry tubes from. The salesmen pointed out that Osram had produced a range of Flourescent Tubes which had been designed and guaranteed to last at least 15 years.
We asked why there wasn't longer lasting bulbs available (such as the normal light bulb, found in every home) - bearing in mind this was before the world went energy saving mad. (That initially posed another issue for buildings electrics, that isn't talked about)
The salesman told us (Off the record), they could easily produce a Light bulb that would last up to 15 years - though the companies won't do it, as they would therefore sell less in the short term, and therefore it'd close factories and they wouldn't make much money.
Interestingly - now - the EU introduced a bill outlawing the manufacture of "General Purpose" light bulbs in July this year.
Incidentally, the Guarantee on the "tubes" was right - many of them had lasted beyond 15years. So was worth the extra cost.
Point is - technology can easily be designed to last - it's just the manufacturers won't do it as they want to encourage us to buy the latest gizmo.
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