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Post by Superclassic on Apr 21, 2015 9:20:59 GMT
OK,it's the oldest musical opinion question in the book,but I was wondering about you guys on the forum.Who do you prefer?
Is it the 4 lads from Liddypol who changed the way we view music?Perfect pop songs sang in those magnificent 3-part harmonies?
Or is it the rougher,bluesier,swaggering 5-piece with the cocky front man who can work a crowd like nobody else?
It's always been a bit of a strange question to me,as the bands are so very different,but as it was normally one or the other back in the day,let's have some opinions on who you prefer,and why.Name some of your fave songs and albums.What about the fashions of the two acts?And musical prowess,too.You prefer Ringo or Charlie?Prefer Lennon or Richards?
Also namecheck some of your other big 60s favourites-Kinks,Small Faces,Hollies......
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Post by Windy Miller on Apr 21, 2015 19:25:26 GMT
This is a no brainer. It has to be The Beatles Very difficult to name a rubbish Beatles song, Revolution 9 being the exception. There's only a couple of Rolling Stones songs that I like - "Let's Spend The Night Together" and "Sympathy For The Devil" being the best two. The Beatles have sold millions of albums, and had countless No. 1's. Revolver is a work of art, and "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" is the best piece of work they did. Make a trip to Liverpool sometime for The Beatles Story- very much worth it
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Post by The Saint on Apr 21, 2015 19:49:49 GMT
The Beatles for me!
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Post by Gene Hunt on Apr 21, 2015 20:53:55 GMT
This is a no brainer. It has to be The Beatles Very difficult to name a rubbish Beatles song, Revolution 9 being the exception. There's only a couple of Rolling Stones songs that I like - "Let's Spend The Night Together" and "Sympathy For The Devil" being the best two. The Beatles have sold millions of albums, and had countless No. 1's. Revolver is a work of art, and "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" is the best piece of work they did. Make a trip to Liverpool sometime for The Beatles Story- very much worth it I'll second every word of that - with the inclusion of Brown Sugar by the Stones. The Beatles stand well above though. Gene.
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Post by Superclassic on Apr 22, 2015 9:19:48 GMT
I think The Beatles were the better band,mainly because the songs they wrote were better.When the 60s turned to 'colour' (to me,this happened in 1965-66),The Stones always seemed to me to be playing catch-up to The Beatles.I think basically around this point,65'-66',The Beatles were head and shoulders above anybody else,with such fantastic albums such as Rubber Soul and Revolver.The Stones albums in the mid 60s weren't bad but really you do have to be a fan to get into them,dare I say they can come across as a little patchy.Check out LPs such as 'Aftermath' and 'Between The Buttons' (which,incidentally,I do admire).
'Sgt.Pepper' needs no introduction,although I will say I don't think this is The Beatles crowning glory as it's made out to be.Sure,it's a great LP,I just feel that maybe you did actually 'have to be there' to really appreciate the huge step the record made, in terms of how different it was,how groundbreaking it was,and what the general public made of it as well as the other famous bands and musicians who were making records at the time.It's very clear the LP sounds very different from their previous album 'Revolver',and to this day music experts and critics still massively sing it's praises. The Stones own psychedelic offering was 'Their Satanic Majesties' Request',although it's maybe unfair to compare the two albums.This is a very strange and patchy record (although,again,I'm quite a fan).I did see an interview with Bill Wyman who said of the album "..but you're talking about a year of drug problems",and it did coincide with the arrests of Mick Jagger and Keith Richards and the famous Redlands bust.
As music changed again going into the late 60s (1968 onwards),The Stones actually start to come into their own here.This is where they turn into The Rolling Stones,'Jumpin Jack Flash' onwards.Lots of people will say that The Beatles 'White Album' isn't one of their favourite albums,The Stones released 'Beggars Banquet',the LP opens with the classic 'Sympathy For The Devil',and in my opinion it's one of the bands' best albums.The strongest period for The Stones is between 1968-1972,the period which saw them release 'Let It Bleed','Sticky Fingers','Exile On Main St.'.Some of the singles around the time were the best;as has been mentioned,'Brown Sugar','Gimme Shelter','Honky Tonk Woman'.
To finish on,it may be worth noting that The Stones didn't start labelling themselves 'The greatest Rock n roll band in the world' until after The Beatles had disbanded.
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Post by Villain on Apr 22, 2015 15:56:46 GMT
I love them both equally at different times for different reasons, always have and always will. I grew up with both, my Mum followed the Stones around in their early days and her tastes have definitely rubbed off on me. The Beatles are the better band when push comes to shove, but it'll never be a completley clear 'black and white' argument for me. The Beatles certainly had the advantage though, having formed much earlier and gigged longer and harder than the Stones did in their earlier days, and their creative juices flowed constantly whereas The Stones have had several fallow periods. The Beatles did their 'hard stuff' in Hamburg before The Stones were properly formed (by Brian Jones, NOT Jagger and Richards!), and it was only after 'Satanic Majesties' flopped in late '67 that The Stones really found their groove and came up with 'Jumping Jack Flash' during a rehearsal in their East End rehearsal studio a few weeks into the new year. Often cited as Mick and Keiths finest hour, the opening guiter riff was actually written by Brian Jones and Bill Wyman while they were waiting for the rest of the band to turn up. Contrary to popular opinion the two bands were not constantly at each others throats, they were very good friends, in fact Lennon, Macca, Harrison, Jones, Jagger and Richards were in and out of each others houses during both bands most creative periods, from late '65 to '69 -ish. They even lent each other their cars (Lennon nearly crashed Jagger's Aston DB6 in '68 on the way home from the 'Hey Jude' launch party at one of their regular Lonodon club haunts). Lennon and Macca sat in on The Stones recording session for 'We Love You' in '67 and contributed close harmonies to the backing track, while Brian Jones spent a lot of time with Macca and Harrison in Abbey Road and Trident Studios, laying down saxophone on 'You Know My Name' amongst others. When The Beatles were recording Sgt.Pepper, Jones, Jagger and Richards were regular visitors to Abbey Road and spent a lot of time at Macca's house in Cavendish Avenue, just round the corner from the studio. With interest in The Beatles ever growing, there are some fantastic photos of them online which have come to light in recent years, many of them being candid shots taken by fans outside Abbey Road or Macca's place in Cavendish Avenue... 24th November 1966, John and Paul arrive in Paul's Mini Cooper S at Abbey Road for the first recording session since they stopped touring on 29th August, with their next LP in mind they start by laying down rough tracks for John's 'Strawberry Fields Forever', some re-edited takes of this night's work ended up on the Anthology CDs and are completely different from the finished record. Between those two dates the national British press was full of stories about their whereabouts, journalists were constantly asking 'where are The Beatles?', 'have they split for good?', and 'will they ever tour again?', the truth being that they were about to enter their most creative period... 20th December 1966, John arrives at Abbey Road in his blacked out Cooper S and is accosted by an ITN journalist on the steps, asking if the band will ever tour or work together again. Paul, George and Ringo were also filmed arriving that evening and were asked the same questions, George dismissing the journo's mithering with a loud ''NO!''... Summer '67, Macca drops in on Jagger at Olympic Studios in Barnes during a Marianne Faithful recording session... 18th May '67, The Beatles go for a wander in Hyde Park they day before the Sgt.Pepper launch party at Brian Epstein's house... 19th May '67, outsode Epstein's house in Belgravia... March '67, John and Paul walking Paul's dog Martha back to his Aston DB6 in Primrose Hill, probably a very bizarre sight for whoever took the photo...! Macca, Jagger and Lennon in Paul's living room in March '67, with the original Sgt.Pepper drum skin on the wall which was never used, Paul still owns the house and the drum skin is still there... George at home in Esher with Brian Jones and Anita Pallenberg in the Summer of '67... Macca leaves Abbey Road in his Cooper S on 8th August '69 - at around 11am that day the band had their photo taken on the zebra crossing for the Abbey Road LP cover, this was also the same night that Charles Manson's desciples went on a murderous rampage in California, inspired so Manson said at his trial by The Beatles 'Helter Skelter' from the previos year's 'White Album'... ''Up the Fabs!"
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Post by Vienna on Apr 22, 2015 18:03:02 GMT
I like both bands as well, although The Beatles' albums were generally better, IMO. The Stones had some great singles like 'Jumpin' Jack Flash, 'Brown Sugar' and 'Street Fighting Man'.
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Post by John Steed on Apr 22, 2015 19:46:29 GMT
I like both bands but would have to say The Beatles. There are too many favourite tracks to list but a few of my faves are "Come together", "Here comes the sun", "Lady Madonna", "I am the Walrus" and "Hello, Goodbye." My favourite Rolling Stones track is "Start me up" and from their earlier era I like "Let's spend the night together" and "Honky Tonk Women"
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Post by Charles Bronson on Apr 23, 2015 18:36:23 GMT
It's The Beatles for me too. There are a couple of Stones songs. I like a bit but I've never been very fond of the band really. The Beatles were phenomenal. it's mind blowing, how big they become. Amazing to think we might never have heard of them if Brian Epstein hadn't gone to have a look at them at the Cavern, during his lunch break.
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Post by Windy Miller on Apr 27, 2015 20:47:11 GMT
Great selection of photos Villain. You are right that both bands got on well. For the very first live, round the world link by satellite, the UK's contribution was The Beatles singing "All You Need Is Love". In the studio were Mick Jagger, Keith Richard, Marianne Faithfull, Keith Moon, Eric Clapton, Pattie Harrison, Jane Asher, Graham Nash and Hunter Davies - all friends of The Beatles
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